Re: I hate OTN now (and Metalink's searches)

Teresa Redmond <XKEAAGIPVIEZ_at_spammotel.co> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:00:42 -0800, in comp.databases.oracle.server,
>Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> scribbled:
>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>> "Mark C. Stock" <mcstockX_at_Xenquery .com> wrote in message
>>> news:8uqdnSD4f9Di1Pnd4p2dnA_at_comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>"Van Messner" <messner1_at_NOSPAMbestweb.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:1068fch3564tp9c_at_corp.supernews.com...
>>>>| Put me down for whatever number you're up to. Metalink searching has
>>>>always
>>>>| been a bit of an embarrassment for a database company that touts its
>>>>ability
>>>>| to store documents and to search them. The new interface is really
>>>
>>> lame.
>>>
>>>>|
>>>>|
>>>>| "Frank van Bortel" <fvanbortel_at_netscape.net> wrote in message
>>>>| news:c417av$fvm$1_at_news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>>>| > Dusan Bolek wrote:
>>>>| >
>>>>| > > Brian Peasland <dba_at_remove_spam.peasland.com> wrote in message
>>>>| news:<40634C73.1EB9807E_at_remove_spam.peasland.com>...
>>>>| > >
>>>>| > >>{rant on}
>>>>| > >>
>>>>| > >>Why oh why did OTN decide to bury the links to the docs way down in
>>>>the
>>>>| > >>lower right hand corner of the page? It was hard enough to get
>>>
>>> people
>>>
>>>>to
>>>>| > >>access the docs when it was an easy click from the top of the page.
>>>>Now
>>>>| > >>I have to scroll down to the bottom, pull down a menu, and select an
>>>>| > >>item.
>>>>| > >>
>>>>| > >>{rant off}
>>>>| > >>
>>>>| > >>{rant on 2}
>>>>| > >>
>>>>| > >>Why oh why did Metalink decide to "improve" my searching by getting
>>>>rid
>>>>| > >>of the quick search ability from the home page? Now I have to click
>>>
>>> on
>>>
>>>>a
>>>>| > >>button to get to advanced searching.
>>>>| > >>
>>>>| > >>{rant off 2}
>>>>| > >
>>>>| > >
>>>>| > > And another rant. Are others here satisfied with Metalink search
>>>>| > > engine? I would prefer Google search instead of Oracle's. In all
>>>
>>> cases
>>>
>>>>| > > when I try to find something in the beginning are useless docs,
>>>>| > > usually some patches for VMS or for Oracle Application. Strange is
>>>>| > > that when I looked into them from curiosity, there was not a single
>>>>| > > occurence of any of my words used in the search. :-(
>>>>| > >
>>>>| > > --
>>>>| > > Dusan Bolek
>>>>| > >
>>>>| > > Email: spambin_at_seznam.cz
>>>>| > > Pls add "Not Guilty" to the subject, otherwise your email is going
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>| > > be burnt as a SPAM.
>>>>| >
>>>>| > Add me to the "no I don't want the new-and-all-improved Metalink list"
>>>>| > And the search engine got worse on top of that; I managed to get about
>>>>| > what I wanted with a few words and restrictions (e.g. platform), but
>>>>| > the last search I did on a clients behalf (AIX), gave me Win2k
>>>>| > SPECIFIC bugs. Go figure!
>>>>| > --
>>>>| >
>>>>| > Regards,
>>>>| > Frank van Bortel
>>>>| >
>>>>|
>>>>|
>>>>has anybody thought of creating a TAR?
>>>>
>>>>;-{ mcs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And to top it all it is really slow!
>>>
>>> but true the search is crap, the mouse over stuff doesnt work and it takes
>>> ages to get an answer on the forum
>>>
>>> Does anyone actually like it?
>>
>>Not one person I know likes the changes. What's to like about a
>>change that improves nothing, makes using a service we've paid for
>>more painful, and gives results with less speed and far less accuracy.
>>
>>I'd like to see if we can get an Oracle employee to step forward here
>>in this usenet group, and I know there are plenty of them lurking, to
>>either defend the changes or stand up and tell us how to best get them
>>rescinded.
>>
>>Thank you.
>
>As someone who is learning, and has been lurking here with occasional
>posts (and great answers!), I have found OTN to be hideous. I have
>had a membership there for 3 years, and the last time I went to the
>site, all of a sudden my password didn't work. I tried twice to use
>the "forgot your password" emailer, which sent my password to my email
>address, and the password they sent me did not work. I tried to
>create a new user, with the expired information (that's what the
>website said), but couldn't, because the email address is in use...
>but the password for that email address is invalid, and I can't get in
>there to change anything!!! So then, I had to create a NEW account,
>and I really dislike having had to do that.
>
>The search capability has changed, and like I have seen others write
>here, the results usually have nothing to do with the search term you
>entered. I have never liked the OTN site, it has always been
>abyssmally slow to load (if it ever loaded at all), and now it is
>definitely worse.
>
>Whatever number we're up to, "'me '" || that_number.

It is very confusing, especially if you used their older and friendlier version..I found that ( since I mostly look for documentation ) using this link:

http://otn.oracle.com/documentation/index.html

gets me to the correct section and I can then look at all the various version's docs.

Helps somewhat... Received on Mon Mar 29 2004 - 13:29:35 CST