Turkbear wrote:
> Teresa Redmond <XKEAAGIPVIEZ_at_spammotel.co> wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:00:42 -0800, in comp.databases.oracle.server,
>>Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> scribbled:
>>
>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mark C. Stock" <mcstockX_at_Xenquery .com> wrote in message
>>>>news:8uqdnSD4f9Di1Pnd4p2dnA_at_comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Van Messner" <messner1_at_NOSPAMbestweb.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1068fch3564tp9c_at_corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>| Put me down for whatever number you're up to. Metalink searching has
>>>>>always
>>>>>| been a bit of an embarrassment for a database company that touts its
>>>>>ability
>>>>>| to store documents and to search them. The new interface is really
>>>>
>>>>lame.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>|
>>>>>| "Frank van Bortel" <fvanbortel_at_netscape.net> wrote in message
>>>>>| news:c417av$fvm$1_at_news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>>>>| > Dusan Bolek wrote:
>>>>>| >
>>>>>| > > Brian Peasland <dba_at_remove_spam.peasland.com> wrote in message
>>>>>| news:<40634C73.1EB9807E_at_remove_spam.peasland.com>...
>>>>>| > >
>>>>>| > >>{rant on}
>>>>>| > >>
>>>>>| > >>Why oh why did OTN decide to bury the links to the docs way down in
>>>>>the
>>>>>| > >>lower right hand corner of the page? It was hard enough to get
>>>>
>>>>people
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>| > >>access the docs when it was an easy click from the top of the page.
>>>>>Now
>>>>>| > >>I have to scroll down to the bottom, pull down a menu, and select an
>>>>>| > >>item.
>>>>>| > >>
>>>>>| > >>{rant off}
>>>>>| > >>
>>>>>| > >>{rant on 2}
>>>>>| > >>
>>>>>| > >>Why oh why did Metalink decide to "improve" my searching by getting
>>>>>rid
>>>>>| > >>of the quick search ability from the home page? Now I have to click
>>>>
>>>>on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>| > >>button to get to advanced searching.
>>>>>| > >>
>>>>>| > >>{rant off 2}
>>>>>| > >
>>>>>| > >
>>>>>| > > And another rant. Are others here satisfied with Metalink search
>>>>>| > > engine? I would prefer Google search instead of Oracle's. In all
>>>>
>>>>cases
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>| > > when I try to find something in the beginning are useless docs,
>>>>>| > > usually some patches for VMS or for Oracle Application. Strange is
>>>>>| > > that when I looked into them from curiosity, there was not a single
>>>>>| > > occurence of any of my words used in the search. :-(
>>>>>| > >
>>>>>| > > --
>>>>>| > > Dusan Bolek
>>>>>| > >
>>>>>| > > Email: spambin_at_seznam.cz
>>>>>| > > Pls add "Not Guilty" to the subject, otherwise your email is going
>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>| > > be burnt as a SPAM.
>>>>>| >
>>>>>| > Add me to the "no I don't want the new-and-all-improved Metalink list"
>>>>>| > And the search engine got worse on top of that; I managed to get about
>>>>>| > what I wanted with a few words and restrictions (e.g. platform), but
>>>>>| > the last search I did on a clients behalf (AIX), gave me Win2k
>>>>>| > SPECIFIC bugs. Go figure!
>>>>>| > --
>>>>>| >
>>>>>| > Regards,
>>>>>| > Frank van Bortel
>>>>>| >
>>>>>|
>>>>>|
>>>>>has anybody thought of creating a TAR?
>>>>>
>>>>>;-{ mcs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>And to top it all it is really slow!
>>>>
>>>>but true the search is crap, the mouse over stuff doesnt work and it takes
>>>>ages to get an answer on the forum
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone actually like it?
>>>
>>>Not one person I know likes the changes. What's to like about a
>>>change that improves nothing, makes using a service we've paid for
>>>more painful, and gives results with less speed and far less accuracy.
>>>
>>>I'd like to see if we can get an Oracle employee to step forward here
>>>in this usenet group, and I know there are plenty of them lurking, to
>>>either defend the changes or stand up and tell us how to best get them
>>>rescinded.
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>
>>As someone who is learning, and has been lurking here with occasional
>>posts (and great answers!), I have found OTN to be hideous. I have
>>had a membership there for 3 years, and the last time I went to the
>>site, all of a sudden my password didn't work. I tried twice to use
>>the "forgot your password" emailer, which sent my password to my email
>>address, and the password they sent me did not work. I tried to
>>create a new user, with the expired information (that's what the
>>website said), but couldn't, because the email address is in use...
>>but the password for that email address is invalid, and I can't get in
>>there to change anything!!! So then, I had to create a NEW account,
>>and I really dislike having had to do that.
>>
>>The search capability has changed, and like I have seen others write
>>here, the results usually have nothing to do with the search term you
>>entered. I have never liked the OTN site, it has always been
>>abyssmally slow to load (if it ever loaded at all), and now it is
>>definitely worse.
>>
>>Whatever number we're up to, "'me '" || that_number.
>
>
> It is very confusing, especially if you used their older and friendlier version..I found that ( since I mostly look for
> documentation ) using this link:
>
> http://otn.oracle.com/documentation/index.html
>
> gets me to the correct section and I can then look at all the various version's docs.
>
> Helps somewhat...
For those willing to invest a few dollars into making a statement:
- Phone 650-506-7000
- Ask for "The Chairman's Office"
- Calmly and professionally express your opinion on the metalink changes.
That statement will be heard.
--
Daniel Morgan
http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
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Received on Mon Mar 29 2004 - 14:03:04 CST
