Re: I hate OTN now (and Metalink's searches)

On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:00:42 -0800, in comp.databases.oracle.server, Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> scribbled:

>DJ wrote:
>
>> "Mark C. Stock" <mcstockX_at_Xenquery .com> wrote in message
>> news:8uqdnSD4f9Di1Pnd4p2dnA_at_comcast.com...
>>
>>>"Van Messner" <messner1_at_NOSPAMbestweb.net> wrote in message
>>>news:1068fch3564tp9c_at_corp.supernews.com...
>>>| Put me down for whatever number you're up to. Metalink searching has
>>>always
>>>| been a bit of an embarrassment for a database company that touts its
>>>ability
>>>| to store documents and to search them. The new interface is really
>>
>> lame.
>>
>>>|
>>>|
>>>| "Frank van Bortel" <fvanbortel_at_netscape.net> wrote in message
>>>| news:c417av$fvm$1_at_news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
>>>| > Dusan Bolek wrote:
>>>| >
>>>| > > Brian Peasland <dba_at_remove_spam.peasland.com> wrote in message
>>>| news:<40634C73.1EB9807E_at_remove_spam.peasland.com>...
>>>| > >
>>>| > >>{rant on}
>>>| > >>
>>>| > >>Why oh why did OTN decide to bury the links to the docs way down in
>>>the
>>>| > >>lower right hand corner of the page? It was hard enough to get
>>
>> people
>>
>>>to
>>>| > >>access the docs when it was an easy click from the top of the page.
>>>Now
>>>| > >>I have to scroll down to the bottom, pull down a menu, and select an
>>>| > >>item.
>>>| > >>
>>>| > >>{rant off}
>>>| > >>
>>>| > >>{rant on 2}
>>>| > >>
>>>| > >>Why oh why did Metalink decide to "improve" my searching by getting
>>>rid
>>>| > >>of the quick search ability from the home page? Now I have to click
>>
>> on
>>
>>>a
>>>| > >>button to get to advanced searching.
>>>| > >>
>>>| > >>{rant off 2}
>>>| > >
>>>| > >
>>>| > > And another rant. Are others here satisfied with Metalink search
>>>| > > engine? I would prefer Google search instead of Oracle's. In all
>>
>> cases
>>
>>>| > > when I try to find something in the beginning are useless docs,
>>>| > > usually some patches for VMS or for Oracle Application. Strange is
>>>| > > that when I looked into them from curiosity, there was not a single
>>>| > > occurence of any of my words used in the search. :-(
>>>| > >
>>>| > > --
>>>| > > Dusan Bolek
>>>| > >
>>>| > > Email: spambin_at_seznam.cz
>>>| > > Pls add "Not Guilty" to the subject, otherwise your email is going
>>
>> to
>>
>>>| > > be burnt as a SPAM.
>>>| >
>>>| > Add me to the "no I don't want the new-and-all-improved Metalink list"
>>>| > And the search engine got worse on top of that; I managed to get about
>>>| > what I wanted with a few words and restrictions (e.g. platform), but
>>>| > the last search I did on a clients behalf (AIX), gave me Win2k
>>>| > SPECIFIC bugs. Go figure!
>>>| > --
>>>| >
>>>| > Regards,
>>>| > Frank van Bortel
>>>| >
>>>|
>>>|
>>>has anybody thought of creating a TAR?
>>>
>>>;-{ mcs
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> And to top it all it is really slow!
>>
>> but true the search is crap, the mouse over stuff doesnt work and it takes
>> ages to get an answer on the forum
>>
>> Does anyone actually like it?
>
>Not one person I know likes the changes. What's to like about a
>change that improves nothing, makes using a service we've paid for
>more painful, and gives results with less speed and far less accuracy.
>
>I'd like to see if we can get an Oracle employee to step forward here
>in this usenet group, and I know there are plenty of them lurking, to
>either defend the changes or stand up and tell us how to best get them
>rescinded.
>
>Thank you.

As someone who is learning, and has been lurking here with occasional posts (and great answers!), I have found OTN to be hideous. I have had a membership there for 3 years, and the last time I went to the site, all of a sudden my password didn't work. I tried twice to use the "forgot your password" emailer, which sent my password to my email address, and the password they sent me did not work. I tried to create a new user, with the expired information (that's what the website said), but couldn't, because the email address is in use... but the password for that email address is invalid, and I can't get in there to change anything!!! So then, I had to create a NEW account, and I really dislike having had to do that.

The search capability has changed, and like I have seen others write here, the results usually have nothing to do with the search term you entered. I have never liked the OTN site, it has always been abyssmally slow to load (if it ever loaded at all), and now it is definitely worse.

Whatever number we're up to, "'me '" || that_number.

-- 
Teresa Redmond
Programmer/Analyst III
Anteon Corporation
tredmond at anteon dot com