RE: RE: Offshore protests

While I wouldn't say I was anti-union, when I worked unionized jobs (construction, teaching, civil service) a long time ago -- it was like working for two bosses. If you disagreed with the union you had no recourse and were likely to experience "problems" if you did. And you really don't want to live through a strike.

kip

|Have any DBA's ever been sued for malpractice?

|I used to belong to a union. One day the union told us to go on strike,
|and we did.

|22 years later, we're still on strike. I'm sure we'll be going back to
|work any day now. Then I can quit this temporary IT career I've been
|working at for 22 years now.

|Unions suck, IMHO. Worst career move I ever made was joining a union.

|--Walt

|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: rgaffuri_at_cox.net [mailto:rgaffuri_at_cox.net]
|> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:15 AM
|> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|> Subject: Re: RE: Offshore protests
|>
|>
|> dba union could be considered a trust. doctors tried doing it
|> and because they are 'independent businesses' its not a union
|> its a trust. they did it to fight high mal-practice suits.
|>
|>
|> >
|> > From: "Orr, Steve" <sorr_at_rightnow.com>
|> > Date: 2003/09/22 Mon PM 12:34:40 EDT
|> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
|> > Subject: RE: Offshore protests
|> >
|> > But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join...
|> > Or "make an offer they can't refuse." ;-)
|> >
|> > -----Original Message-----
|> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:00 AM
|> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|> >
|> >
|> > Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in dark and we
|> > frequently get burnt by fire.
|> >
|> > --
|> > Mladen Gogala
|> > Oracle DBA
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> > > -----Original Message-----
|> > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On
|> > > Behalf Of KENNETH JANUSZ
|> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:30 AM
|> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|> > > Subject: Re: Offshore protests
|> > >
|> > >
|> > > The labor unions would definitely be interested. Teamsters,
|> > > Steel Workers, AFSME?
|> > >
|> > > Ken Janusz, CPIM
|> > >
|> > > ----- Original Message -----
|> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
|> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:09 AM
|> > >
|> > >
|> > > > We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm
|> sure that all
|> > > > heads
|> > > on
|> > > > the Capitol Hill
|> > > > would turn when both members show up with banners,
|> demanding better
|> > > > pay
|> > > for
|> > > > starved database
|> > > > administrators. What do you think, should we mandate 9i OCP for
|> > > > joining
|> > > the
|> > > > union? If we were
|> > > > in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the
|> > > White Heart pub
|> > > > (or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry Purvis and
|> > > > exchange the union stories.
|> > > >
|> > > > --
|> > > > Mladen Gogala
|> > > > Oracle DBA
|> > > >
|> > > >
|> > > >
|> > > > > -----Original Message-----
|> > > > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
|> > > [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On Behalf
|> > > > > Of DENNIS WILLIAMS
|> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:45 AM
|> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|> > > > > Subject: Offshore protests
|> > > > >
|> > > > >
|> > > > > Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of
|> protesting.
|> > > > >
|> > >
|> http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15000146
|> > > > >
|> > > > >
|> > > > > Dennis Williams
|> > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
|> > > > > Lifetouch, Inc.
|> > > > > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
|> > > > > --
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|> > > > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
|> > > > > INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
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