No problem with beating people up. Violence is, contrary to Chris Lawson's
book,
an integral part of DBA job. BTW, Chris Lawsons' "Art and Science of Tuning
Oracle"
reads like Dale Carnegie for database administrators. Basically, we should
give up
our cynical attitude, become indistinguishable from the HR/finance drones
and get
rid of our geekish culture. Really terrifying stuff.
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On
> Behalf Of Orr, Steve
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:35 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Offshore protests
>
>
> But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join...
> Or "make an offer they can't refuse." ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in dark
> and we frequently get burnt by fire.
>
> --
> Mladen Gogala
> Oracle DBA
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]
> On Behalf
> > Of KENNETH JANUSZ
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:30 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: Offshore protests
> >
> >
> > The labor unions would definitely be interested. Teamsters, Steel
> > Workers, AFSME?
> >
> > Ken Janusz, CPIM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:09 AM
> >
> >
> > > We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm
> sure that all
> > > heads
> > on
> > > the Capitol Hill
> > > would turn when both members show up with banners,
> demanding better
> > > pay
> > for
> > > starved database
> > > administrators. What do you think, should we mandate 9i OCP for
> > > joining
> > the
> > > union? If we were
> > > in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the
> > White Heart pub
> > > (or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry Purvis and
> > > exchange the union stories.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mladen Gogala
> > > Oracle DBA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
> > [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of DENNIS WILLIAMS
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:45 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: Offshore protests
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of protesting.
> > > >
> >
> http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.j> html?articleID=15000146
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Williams
> > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> > > > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > > > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> > > > --
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> > > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
> > > > INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
> > > >
> > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051
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