Re: Offshore protests

Yes. he was under the "visitors"
goalpost, but I heard he didn't like it
and moved to the "home" team's goalpost.

• Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 2:14 PM

> under the goalpost right?
>
> joe
>
>
> Mladen Gogala wrote:
>
> >Jimmy Hoffa would probably agree with you, once they pull him out
> >from beneath Meadowlands.
> >
> >--
> >Mladen Gogala
> >Oracle DBA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On
> >>Behalf Of Weaver, Walt
> >>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 1:35 PM
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>Subject: RE: RE: Offshore protests
> >>
> >>
> >>Have any DBA's ever been sued for malpractice?
> >>
> >>I used to belong to a union. One day the union told us to go
> >>on strike, and we did.
> >>
> >>22 years later, we're still on strike. I'm sure we'll be
> >>going back to work any day now. Then I can quit this
> >>temporary IT career I've been working at for 22 years now.
> >>
> >>Unions suck, IMHO. Worst career move I ever made was joining a union.
> >>
> >>--Walt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: rgaffuri_at_cox.net [mailto:rgaffuri_at_cox.net]
> >>>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:15 AM
> >>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>>Subject: Re: RE: Offshore protests
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>dba union could be considered a trust. doctors tried doing it
> >>>and because they are 'independent businesses' its not a union
> >>>its a trust. they did it to fight high mal-practice suits.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: "Orr, Steve" <sorr_at_rightnow.com>
> >>>>Date: 2003/09/22 Mon PM 12:34:40 EDT
> >>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >>>>Subject: RE: Offshore protests
> >>>>
> >>>>But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join...
> >>>>Or "make an offer they can't refuse." ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:00 AM
> >>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>dark and we
> >>
> >>
> >>>>frequently get burnt by fire.
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Mladen Gogala
> >>>>Oracle DBA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On
> >>>>>Behalf Of KENNETH JANUSZ
> >>>>>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:30 AM
> >>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>>>>Subject: Re: Offshore protests
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The labor unions would definitely be interested.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>Teamsters, Steel
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>Workers, AFSME?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ken Janusz, CPIM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:09 AM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>sure that all
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>heads
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>the Capitol Hill
> >>>>>>would turn when both members show up with banners,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>demanding better
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>pay
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>for
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>starved database
> >>>>>>administrators. What do you think, should we mandate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>9i OCP for
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>joining
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>union? If we were
> >>>>>>in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>White Heart pub
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>(or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>Purvis and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>exchange the union stories.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>Mladen Gogala
> >>>>>>Oracle DBA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>[mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On Behalf
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Of DENNIS WILLIAMS
> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:45 AM
> >>>>>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >>>>>>>Subject: Offshore protests
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>protesting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15000146
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>Dennis Williams
> >>>>>>>DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
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