Re: One-To-One Relationships

From: Cimode <cimode_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:40:03 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <e23e6b18-7966-45fb-b97a-4ab4a4fe9541_at_b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>


On 2 déc, 16:11, Jan Hidders <hidd..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2 dec, 14:16, Cimode <cim..._at_hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 2 déc, 10:36, Jan Hidders <hidd..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On 1 dec, 06:26, vldm10 <vld..._at_yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 30, 9:34 am, Jan Hidders <hidd..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Why by only one attribute? Why not by a set of attributes? Or a
> > > > > combination of attributes and relationships (as is the case for weak
> > > > > entities)?
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> > > > This is OK, but my advice to you -don't use it often.
> > > > I will give you one example:
> > > > The relation has A1, A2, A3, A4 "attributes" and they are mutually
> > > > independent (i.e. they are in BCNF)
> > > > The "attributes" can change their values for "entity" like in
> > > > "temporal DB". User needs on line all information for any "entity" in
> > > > any moment.
> > > > Can you please write the key for this relation so that we can discuss
> > > > it.
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> > > You do realize we were talking about ER modeling, not RM modeling,
> > > don't you?
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> > I am talking about neither of the two. If you ask me, I place terms
> > like *entity* on the same level than terms like *object*: too
> > subjective to be reliable to build logical reasonning onto.
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> Any data model is to some extent subjective since it represents the
> universe of discourse of a certain group of people. Of course the
> representation of that data models should be exactly defined, but that
> doesn't require that the notion of entity is more defined than it is
> now.
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> > But I should phrased my question otherwise: what's more elementary/
> > best than a name to identify an entity, any entity ?
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> Your question seems to assume that all things that we can speak about
> always have a unique name. For a particular universe of discourse that
> may or may not be the case.
I am not assuming anything. You are putting words in my mouth. I simply asked a simple question that seems valid to me and I am waiting for a response that does not involve complex theories.

> -- Jan Hidderes
Received on Sun Dec 02 2007 - 19:40:03 CET

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