Re: database systems and organizational intelligence
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:36:18 -0300
Message-ID: <pan.2004.06.01.18.36.17.644205_at_dutra.fastmail.fm>
Em Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:45:26 +0000, Bill H escreveu:
> "Gene Wirchenko" <genew_at_mail.ocis.net> wrote in message
>
>> >It reminds me of my friend who says "communism has never been tried." >> >> It has been tried. It has not been implemented.
>
> I guess you're figuring the next time implementation is attempted you're one
> of the implementors instead of the implementees? :-)
You touched tangently the real point in this comparision, I think.
Communism is a kind of social engineering. It can't work, it can't even be properly tried, because you can't change people. Just not to be a red basher, the same is true of Christian social engineering, from the Social Gospel to Restorationism and Dominionism: religion can change a few people, but if it tries to change everyone it gets changed instead. Like the Tartar becoming Chinese, or the Franks becoming romanised French.
OTOH databases are science and engineering. The relational model has been implemented in the past, and all advances proposed by D&D seem to be implementable, and have alreay been at least partially implemented either by the original Ingres QUEL, or by IBM BS12, or more recently by Alphora Dataphor. As for what is missing yet, no one has been able to show an engineering or scientific reason to say it couldn't be done.
So arguing the RM can't be implemented is just naysaying.
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