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Re: Size of files. Can you estimate?

From: <amerar_at_iwc.net>
Date: 8 Dec 2006 06:57:02 -0800
Message-ID: <1165589822.697158.99400@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>

Mark D Powell wrote:
> On Dec 7, 5:48 pm, "hpuxrac" <johnbhur..._at_sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > ExecMan wrote:
> > > Hi,
> >
> > > I've just taken over a database. The database has 28 rollback
> > > segments. And, to my astonishment, these guys are not running their
> > > production database in archive log mode.
> >
> > > Short term fix is to put it in archive log mode. but, I'm wondering if
> > > there is any way to estimate how large the archive log files will be,
> > > or, how often they will be created based on the number of wraps the
> > > rollback segments have........
> >
> > > Here is my data to work with. I know it's a lot, so I appreciate your
> > > help.
> >
> > > NAME USN RSSIZE OPTSIZE HWMSIZE EXTENDS WRAPS
> > > SHRINKS AVESHRINK AVEACTIVE
> > > ------ --- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
> > > ---------- ---------- ----------
> > > RBS0 1 4190208 4194304 17297408 120 1225
> > > 23 2735415 2429731
> > > RBS1 2 4190208 4194304 17821696 219 1325
> > > 32 3588096 2870508
> > > RBS10 11 4190208 4194304 17821696 151 1239
> > > 21 3769880 1724976
> > > RBS11 12 4190208 4194304 17297408 176 1250
> > > 25 3690987 1310009
> > > RBS12 13 4190208 4194304 17821696 120 1216
> > > 22 2859752 1878547
> > > RBS13 14 4190208 4194304 17297408 239 1379
> > > 38 3297495 2398540
> > > RBS14 15 4190208 4194304 17821696 241 1385
> > > 38 3325089 873264
> > > RBS15 16 4190208 4194304 17297408 181 1285
> > > 29 3272280 1564103
> > > RBS16 17 4190208 4194304 16248832 155 1246
> > > 26 3125563 1497080
> > > RBS17 18 4190208 4194304 17297408 167 1279
> > > 28 3127003 662942
> > > RBS18 19 4190208 4194304 17297408 191 1325
> > > 31 3230290 2764290
> > > RBS19 20 4190208 4194304 17821696 149 1240
> > > 23 3396474 1908383
> > > RBS2 3 4190208 4194304 17297408 173 1271
> > > 27 3359326 1255459
> > > RBS20 21 4190208 4194304 16248832 197 1343
> > > 33 3129840 1922859
> > > RBS21 22 4190208 4194304 16248832 125 1241
> > > 23 2849391 2520293
> > > RBS22 23 4190208 4194304 17297408 273 1457
> > > 43 3328619 1596865
> > > RBS23 24 4190208 4194304 15724544 169 1274
> > > 25 3544186 2106861
> > > RBS24 25 4190208 4194304 17821696 188 1268
> > > 27 3650597 1403512
> > > RBS25 26 4190208 4194304 17297408 219 1350
> > > 35 3280544 669183
> > > RBS26 27 4190208 4194304 17297408 212 1335
> > > 32 3473408 769582
> > > RBS27 28 4190208 4194304 16248832 218 1405
> > > 39 2930635 1670012
> > > RBS28 29 4190208 4194304 17821696 185 1337
> > > 31 3128815 717392
> > > RBS3 4 4190208 4194304 13627392 73 1151
> > > 15 2551534 2173562
> > > RBS4 5 4190208 4194304 17821696 247 1387
> > > 39 3320490 1928782
> > > RBS5 6 4190208 4194304 17297408 217 1315
> > > 31 3670016 1460498
> > > RBS6 7 4190208 4194304 17297408 203 1348
> > > 34 3130307 562245
> > > RBS7 8 4190208 4194304 17297408 171 1269
> > > 26 3448201 527361
> > > RBS8 9 4190208 4194304 13627392 147 1245
> > > 24 3211264 931141
> > > RBS9 10 4190208 4194304 17821696 130 1210
> > > 19 3587233 2876121
> >
> > > JohnUmm John ( nice name by the way ) ... rollback segments don't have
> > anything to do ( directly ) with how much archive is going to be
> > generated.
> >
> > However, the activity of your online redo logs is important and can be
> > used to get an idea of how much archive log data is going to be
> > generated.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
> John, look in the alert log and count how many log switches you have
> per day. Based on your online redo log size make an estimate.
>
> You can also try looking at v$log_history. I do not have a non-archive
> log mode database in front of me to check but I am pretty sure that
> Oracle still logs the swithes in the control file so you can see the
> history of switches here.
>
> HTH -- Mark D Powell --

Hi Mark,

Don't get upset, I know it is a lot of data, but how does this show me the log switches? This is a query from v$log_history......

     RECID      STAMP    THREAD#  SEQUENCE# FIRST_CHANGE# FIRST_TIME
      NEXT_CHANGE#

---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- -------------
------------------- ------------
    584240  608604129          1     584240    2815333393 12/08/2006
00:41:53   2815333640
    584241  608604141          1     584241    2815333640 12/08/2006
00:42:09   2815334042
    584242  608604152          1     584242    2815334042 12/08/2006
00:42:20   2815335349
    584243  608604173          1     584243    2815335349 12/08/2006
00:42:32   2815336687
    584244  608604185          1     584244    2815336687 12/08/2006
00:42:53   2815338011
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00:43:05   2815339303
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00:43:17   2815340614
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00:43:32   2815341938
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00:43:45   2815343240
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00:43:57   2815344520
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00:44:21   2815345808
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00:44:33   2815347127
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00:44:44   2815348375
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00:45:09   2815349686
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04:26:32   2815431451
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04:50:59   2815485430
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