Re: Unicode stuff

"Howard J. Rogers" <hjr_at_dizwell.com> wrote in message news:<40ce41ed$0$14386$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au>...
> "Joel Garry" <joel-garry_at_home.com> wrote in message
> news:91884734.0406141611.51df96e3_at_posting.google.com...
> > "Howard J. Rogers" <hjr_at_dizwell.com> wrote in message
> news:<40ccd9d8$0$11525$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au>...
> > > "FM" <fabrizio.magni_at_mycontinent.com> wrote in message
> > > news:w72zc.322134$hc5.14094266_at_news3.tin.it...
> > > > For linux (and some unix) try "locale".
> > > >
> > > > For chcp there is a good note on metalink (179133.1). It solved a lot
> of
> > > > my character set issues (and I discovered that windows has two
> different
> > > > settings for the characterset: registry for GUI and user/system
> > > > environment for DOS emulation).
> > > >
> > > > I hope I didn't write anything naive (usually I read HJR's posts... I
> > > > don't give advices)
> > > > FM
> > >
> > > Nothing naiive at all... that first sentence of yours is a little bit of
> > > information I've been asking for on various groups for absolutely
> *ages*!!
> > > So many, many thanks for providing an incredibly useful tip to this
> > > Linuxphobe.
> >
> > RTFM
> http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/A87860_01/doc/server.817/a76966/ch2.htm#91431
> > http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/showdoc?db=NOT&id=137127.1
> > man locale lang
> >
> > Sorry, I never saw you ask it. When I first learned about O NLS on
> > unix years ago, I couldn't help but stumble over locale.
>
> It's not an Oracle issue, Joel. It's the business of creating files with
> names such as 'elysée' which display fine on Windows, but once copied across
> to a Linux file server gets stored as 'elys?e (invalid unicode)'. The locale
> command will, I suspect, resolve that issue once and for all (but if one
> doesn't know that the command is called 'locale' it is a tad difficult to
> know to read the man pages for it, n'est-çe pas?).

Well, that isn't a whole lot different than an Oracle newbie not knowing to search for NLS, right?

OK, I should have said "when I was configuring NLS for Oracle on a unix box years ago to test a language issue, I couldn't help but stumble over the unix locale command." So I thought, if I stumbled over it that way, an Oracle expert on linux ought to stumble over it the same way if they are doing anything beyond accepting all NLS defaults.

Many unix have man -k to search for keywords (like LANGUAGE or NLS). I forget what the linux deal with that is offhand, but recall being frustrated that a lot of linux stuff doesn't have man pages so you could grep everything if all else fails. And that's how people get over being afraid of any unix - learn to be comfortable with a few simple command line tools, and everything becomes accessible. Now that linux is bloating up, it's having Windows style problems. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/10/1246219&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=166&tid=185&tid=189&tid=99

Linux usability for newbies feedback:
http://www.grokdoc.net/index.php/Main_Page

jg

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