RE: Column encryption use-case

From: Mark W. Farnham <mwf_at_rsiz.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 08:00:32 -0400
Message-ID: <123a01d9ec83$3af27760$b0d76620$_at_rsiz.com>



Excellent points.  

In this case I believe Lok P was suggesting that the sensitive data would no longer be allowed to appear in this string, not that it would not be unencrypted there.  

Tim Gorman’s approach might allow the sensitive data to appear here only (the JSON string), which seems plausible since JSON can be parsed. But removing sensitive data altogether is the most effective possible “encryption,” similar to not executing a sql you don’t need to execute to accomplish your goal. Presumably that trades some user inconvenience for performance in this particular case.  

That does NOT diminish the value of your reminder that in some cases we are talking about legal requirements with possible criminal penalties for being careless.  

Consider printed (even virtually “printed” to a PDF image). If reports contain legally controlled data in clear test, now they become subject to lock and key as well. IS the system administrator able to view all areas on disk based report repositories? How about operators at remote third party back-up sites?  

You are correct, this is a serious issue.  

mwf  

mwf  

From: Priit Piipuu [mailto:priit.piipuu_at_gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:36 AM To: loknath.73_at_gmail.com
Cc: Mark W. Farnham; Lucas Pimentel Lellis; rjgoulet_at_comcast.net; Oracle L Subject: Re: Column encryption use-case      

On Tue, 19 Sept 2023 at 23:03, Lok P <loknath.73_at_gmail.com> wrote:

 But I understand the column encryption/decryption comes with its own performance overhead. So it seems, dbms_encrypt is the only solution we can go with and then perhaps we have to move the only sensitive field out of the JSON string so that we would be able to avoid the burden of encrypting/decrypting the whole clob column.  

Please note: if the legal requirement is that sensitive data must be encrypted, then it must be encrypted no matter what the overhead is. For example, in certain jurisdictions tipping off the money launderer is a jailable offence, so you will have a tradeoff between encrypting the AML-related data and a few years in jail.  

Oh, and if sensitive data must be encrypted, then it must be encrypted everywhere, including networks and applications. For example, if the app processes sensitive data unencrypted, then core dumps will become sensitive data as well, etc.  

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