Aw: Re: [External] : Re: Question on gathering System Statistics
From: <rogel_at_web.de>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 19:14:19 +0100
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 19:14:19 +0100
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Jonathan,
since no one here doubts your authority, you are surely right with that (per "argumentum ad verecundiam" 
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).However, my knowledge of Latin, which used to be quite profound in school for nine years tells me that you are wrong with that.
Regards
Matthias
Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Februar 2021 um 18:19 Uhr
Von: "Jonathan Lewis" <jlewisoracle_at_gmail.com>
An: "oracle-l_at_freelists.org" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
Betreff: Re: [External] : Re: Question on gathering System Statistics
Von: "Jonathan Lewis" <jlewisoracle_at_gmail.com>
An: "oracle-l_at_freelists.org" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
Betreff: Re: [External] : Re: Question on gathering System Statistics
Splitting hairs here, but:
"argument from authority" is "argumentum ab auctoritate" (e.g. "from year of experiance with the CBO I can assure you that gathering systems stats is not a good idea ... ").
"argumentum ad verecundiam" is "appeal to authority". (e.g. Nigel Bayliss is the PM for the optimizer and he says you don't need to gather system stats ...).
Regards
Jonathan Lewis
On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 15:33, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com> wrote:
I am one of those guys who has real problems with authority. When I was a kid, I challenged my math teacher to prove the Pythagora theorem and I told her that I don't believe it without proof. She had my parents come to school. That nasty attitude was further reinforced by me getting a Bsc in mathematics few years later. Latin name for the argument from authority is "argumentum ad verecundiam" and is considered to be a logical error since the Roman times. I need some kind of explanation why is that so. I have nothing but respect for Maria, Nigel and Jonathan, but I need some kind of explanation. BTW, my favorite movie of all times is "Life of Brian", which also has something to do with challenging authority.