Re: Check my understanding of Oracle licensing

Hi paul, mark, mladen,

I am not at all aware of this licensing part or have never looked into it till date as the clients or companies I have worked with till date had ULA..
I was under the impression that it was the actual CPU count from the OS perspective.
Now that you mention it, is it the physical CPU core count or both performance and core count considered in this discount factor?

Thanks,
Vishnu

On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:08 AM Paul Drake <bdbafh_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Go read Animal Farm.
>
> Meager Intel threads were no match for SPARC processors.
>
> Nor were IBM POWER CPUs at the time, marketing-wise. They received a 0.75
> discount.
>
> Some processors were more equal than others.
>
> Around that time there was an O'Reilly text from Cary Milsap that
> discussed queuing theory. For Intel/AMD x86/x86_64 after 8 cores the system
> had an adverse response in net throughput as the core count increased. It
> might have even peaked at 4 cores.
>
> Happy seasonal time of year to log off from the VPN. Enjoy.
>
> Mladen, you can do better than this feeble attempt.
>
> Pd
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 3:37 PM Vishnu Potukanuma <
> vishnupotukanuma_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am not sure about licensing,,, but if the above is correct... then it
>> has to be this.
>>
>> probably when intel introduced with the concept of hyperthreading back in
>> Pentium4 days , where a CPU Core handled 2 threads at once... Even though
>> there was only one physical CPU Core, OS saw it as 2 CPUs, in order to
>> consider that that they must have factored the cost as cpu cores * .5 to
>> charge only for the physical cores... and slowly along the way, this was
>> misinterpreted and Oracle started loosing money?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vishnu
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 1:51 AM Mark J. Bobak <mark_at_bobak.net> wrote:
>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:10 PM Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, it doesn't make sense but it is correct.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/26/19 11:24 AM, Jeffrey Beckstrom wrote:
>>>> > This would be for IAS/Weblogic on X64 hardware. Our understanding is
>>>> > that each core has a factor of .5. We are considering a 2 processor
>>>> > server with 8 cores per processor for a total of 16 cores. Based on
>>>> > the factor this would represent 8 processors to be licensed.
>>>> >
>>>> > Does this make sense?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mladen Gogala
>>>> Database Consultant
>>>> Tel: (347) 321-1217
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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