Re: Clone tool

From: Tim Gorman <tim_at_evdbt.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:25:02 -0600
Message-ID: <05a529e2-95cc-71c9-af95-b3b6bbcb6bd4_at_evdbt.com>

Aren't you glad I put it into extremely simplistic terms, almost to the point of silliness?

Your welcome.

On 4/25/16 18:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> Yes, Commvault can support that requirement. Commvault has a very
> elaborate privilege system and can create users with or without
> "clone" capability, which may be able to run the refresh job or may not.
> Regards,
>
> On 4/25/2016 8:16 PM, Tim Gorman wrote:
>> Suppose someone wants one user to be able to create a database clone
>> (and do everything else to manage it), and then they want another
>> user to be able only to manage a clone (i.e. refresh, rewind, etc),
>> but not be able to create a clone?
>>
>> Can CommVault support that requirement? If so, how?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/16 17:49, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>>> The term "self-service" is a marketing term without much meaning, if
>>> any at all. With Commvault, anyone can clone the database, given
>>> the appropriate privileges. Privileges can be assigned by the
>>> Commvault administrator. Even at a gas station you need a credit
>>> card for "self service". Having a credit card is a privilege and
>>> very far from being universal, at that.
>>> Also, I am not sure that the original topic included marketing of
>>> the products and doing feature by feature comparison. In my
>>> opinion, that part is not appropriate for this group. I also try
>>> not to push the products of my employer through this list.
>>> Refraining from marketing avoids awkward situations like this one.
>>> After all, I am a computer geek, not a sales person.
>>>
>>> On 4/25/2016 9:36 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
>>>> Steve Karam, Kyle Hailey, and I are contributors to this list who
>>>> are also employees of Delphix.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the original topic, would you explain what "self-service
>>>> capability" means?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/16 05:51, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>>>>> On 04/24/2016 11:18 PM, Tim Gorman wrote:
>>>>>> Assuming a definition of "self-service capability" as "management
>>>>>> of a separation of duties", that sounds like a "no" for CommVault.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if you are adopting extremely simplistic interpretation, to
>>>>> the point of silliness.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In contrast, Oracle Snapclone provides self-service provisioning
>>>>>> through a service catalog of templates
>>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/oem/cloud-mgmt/em-snapclone-2267372.html>,
>>>>>> and different accounts have a separation of duties (i.e. some
>>>>>> accounts can create templates, other accounts can only clone from
>>>>>> templates, etc), but there are others on this list who can
>>>>>> explain this much more capably than I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as Delphix is concerned, its main user-interface enables
>>>>>> DBAs to do everything, but the Delphix JetStream
>>>>>> <https://docs.delphix.com/display/DOCS41/Getting+Started+with+Jet+Stream>
>>>>>> user-interface is provided to be used by developers, QA testers,
>>>>>> project leads, and other non-DBAs to manage what has already been
>>>>>> provisioned.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Tim, I am a Commvault employee. Are you by any chance a Delphix
>>>>> reseller or are you making money by pushing Delphix?
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mladen Gogala
>>>>> Oracle DBA
>>>>> http://mgogala.freehostia.com
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>
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