Re: 12c grid control
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
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I'll be totally honest in this- I stumbled into the OEM10g environment because when it broke, I was the only one who was foolish enough to dig into it and figure out what was up. It really was just everyone's monitoring tools covered in a "pretty picture" and it was painful. I was a command line girl then, still am to this day, but I realized how often no one wanted to learn my flavor of shell or perl scripting and the same went for me. Having to dig in and figure out in a new environment where the backup scripts were, what OS user(s) owned the crons, etc., was the reason I started pushing EM12c on folks, as it created a one-stop shop, even building the RMAN backup scripts for you and simplifying blackout maintenance. I love the EMCLI and spend much of my time figuring out how to mass create scripts these days to automate work from it's command line. Maybe I'm going backwards in doing so, but it is still it's own interface that simplifies and consolidates what the DBA is doing in the environment, securing it with credentials through the EM12c while you go along. *Get's off soapbox* :D
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From: Gus Spier <gus.spier_at_gmail.com> To: steve.harville_at_gmail.com
Cc: tim_at_oracle-base.com; dbvision_at_iinet.net.au; Oracle-L Freelists <oracle-l_at_freelists.org> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: 12c grid control
This has been an extraordinarily informative conversation. I appreciate
the expertise of all of you.
The most daunting task for me and my team is simply the transition from
"management by script/cronjob" to modern, gui-driven enterprise management
and cloud control. We are contracted to perform "first echelon
maintenance". That is monitor,"break/fix", backup, and restore. Clearly,
we are going to have to understand OEM from the ground up, eventually. But
for right now, just getting a handle on tablespaces, file systems,
listeners, and data block corruption is an adventure. Adapting OEM 12c for
first line maintenance troops, in terms suitable for those of the most
minimal comprehension may be unattainable.
I am plowing through the YouTube Oracle Learning channel and about to start cruising the OBE pages. If someone knows more direct route, I'd be happy to hear it.
Thanks,
Gus
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Steve Harville <steve.harville_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> *>>>Resilience is a good point, which can potentially stop cloud control
> being a free product.*
> *>>>We will soon replace this by installing a single VM with both DB and
> management server. We will use VMware to provide resilience here.*
> Hi Tim,
>
> We are doing the same thing except we are using an Oracle VM on Exalogic.
> We may move it to VMware in the future. The OEM/RMAN repository is the only
> Oracle DB running on the hardware so no extra licensing costs are involved.
>
> Steve Harville
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