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RE: Useful Oracle books - C.J. Date theory vs. practicality

From: Lex de Haan <lex.de.haan_at_naturaljoin.nl>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:44:20 +0200
Message-ID: <JFEEIGBIDOCCDALDIPLNCEPHCDAA.lex.de.haan@naturaljoin.nl>


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Kind regards,
Lex.



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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of Binley Lim Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 15:15
To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: Useful Oracle books - C.J. Date theory vs. practicality

> my only point (somewhere at the beginning of this thread :-) was that
> certain seemingly obvious logical equivalences don't hold in three-valued
> logic.

People who work with DBs that implement NULLs distinguish the difference earlier on. Or they produce wrong results. Not sure what your theoritical argument is. In practice, NULLs work. Do you have a theory that says they should not? Something that does not work doesn't need a theory to say so - it will crash and burn by itself.

LDH> NULLs would work much better if they would have been implemented consistently...
LDH> But I agree they work, and as long as you know the pitfalls there is no problem.

Within an Oracle context, I'm really quite puzzled to see someone suggesting something like 'Mort subite' = NULL. You shoudl never, never equal" NULL. It is a meaningless comparison -- noone writing Oracle code should be caught dead writing 'something' = NULL.

LDH> I am afraid you missed the point -- obviously, I agree 'Mort subite' = NULL
LDH> is a weird expression (although the beer with that name is not bad at all.)
LDH> I only used it to manufacture a logical expression evaluating to UNKNOWN;

LDH> Normally, you would write something like BEER_TYPE = 'Mort subite'
LDH> where BEER_TYPE is a column potentially containing NULL values;
LDH> for any row containing a NULL value, the effect would be the same.


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