RE: Oracle 10g for Windows

From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 14:14:37 -0800
Message-Id: <1076883277.2839.7286.camel@poirot>

What I dislike about working with Oracle on Windows:

No decent scheduler. Yes there is 'at'. Like I said...
Installing Perl on win32 with all needed modules has become a monumental pain in the rear.
Why can't MS provide a semi-decent code editor. Yeah, notepad. Right.
Command line utilities. You think unix/linux is arcane?
The fact that an incredibly robust PIPE implementation is built in, but there is no access from the command line. And that Oracle is built with the MS stdlib ( think that's the sitation ) so even when you get 3rd party tools that work with PIPE's, they won't work with Oracle.
The fact that there are still drive letters.
That MS has *finally* got around to offering unix like utilities, but wants $100 for them, on top of the money you've already paid for the OS.
That it took until Win23k for MS to design the system to allow different versions of apps to have different versions of DLL's. Lesse, we've been doing this on unix for 30 years or so?
The stupid Oracle home selector that is strictly a GUI.
That whenever a change in environment is made that needs to be picked up by an existing or new service, you must reboot because there is no other way to reset the environment seen by services.exe.

Mind you now, Oracle runs just fine on win32. It's maintaining it and working with the environment that is so annoying, and made difficult where it shouldn't be.

Jared

On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 12:26, Freeman Robert - IL wrote:
> My 2 cents...
>
> Most of the complaints I see about Oracle on Win here are either:
>
> 1. By people doing it for the first time, or who rarely do it.
> 2. By people who are doing Oracle for the first time, or rarely do it.
>
> I actually like Oracle on Win, and I agree with Tom, I've had few problems
> with it.
>
> I agree that installing service packs is maddening, but don't most Unix OS
> upgrades of any great import seem to require a reboot?
>
> Robert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Koivu, Lisa
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Sent: 2/13/2004 12:53 PM
> Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows
>
> Hi Tom,=20
>
> Are you kidding? You never have to install service packs and reboot?=20
>
> We run windows 2003 and our "vice president" in IT decided that as a
> corporate standard we should turn on auto-update and let the boxes
> reboot themselves. Excuse me??=20
>
> The more I work on Windows, the more I do not like it. However, I'm in
> the same boat as you. You make do with what you are given when you are
> not personally paying the bill.
>
> Lisa Koivu
> Senior Monkey
> Orlando, FL, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mercadante, Thomas F
> [mailto:thomas.mercadante_at_labor.state.ny.us]=20
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:58 AM
> To: 'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'
> Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows
>
> Unfortunately, we have to put up with unrealistic comments like these.
> let
> me repeat it again for those who forget:
>
> Some of us have no choice in the operating system that we work with.
> And
> some of us are running systems under a Windows environment and are
> perfectly
> happy with how things run, and *never ever* have the "problems" that get
> reported here. =20
>
> I have windows databases that have been running for 3 years now.
> *Never*
> does the machine crash. And *never* do we reboot "just because we
> should".
>
> If you experience bad things, then I suggest you take it up with your
> system
> admin. More than likely, somebody was allowed to treat a database
> server
> like a personal desktop.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:Rajendra.Jamadagni_at_espn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:46 AM
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows
>
>
> Remind me again .. is this oracle-l forum or slashdot ??
>
> <g>
>
> Raj
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -=3D
> -------
> Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
> All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.
> QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of David Sharples
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:44 AM
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: RE: Oracle 10g for Windows
>
>
> Define dominant?
>
> The chances of Linux overtaking the average desktop in the world are
> pretty slim and Linux is not really mature enough to run enterprise
> level stuff - maybe soon it will be.
>
> Sun and HP are Windows are still more widely used (rightly or wrongly)
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