Re: AutoDBA

Yes, I remember that session and its aftermath well. I also was repeatedly asked (harassed?) by Insession to consider AutoDBA. I rather reluctantly said I would evaluate a trial version and asked them to send it to me. They said that they couldn't do that - first they had to come and do a presentation to upper management, then they would "send in a team" to install the trial software. They were obviously trying to do the hard sell to upper management before I could even see it. The sales tactics alone were enough for me to permanently give it the garlic necklace and raised cross treatment.

I think the first question that should be asked is "What do you need?", not "What will <some product> do?"

-Don Granaman
certified OraSaurus

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> Dick,
>
> You've had contact with it before:
>
> http://www.orafaq.net/archive/oracle-l/2002/08/21/140824.htm
> http://www.orafaq.net/archive/oracle-l/2002/08/21/212838.htm
>
> The company contacting us about it is Insession technologies:
> http://www.insession.com/autoDBA/default.asp
> (Note at the bottom of the screen says "*AutoDBA is developed and
supported
> by Senware, Inc. and distributed by Insession Technologies")
>
> I guess another part of my question is what is a reasonable price to pay
for
> monitoring tools of this sort? They haven't told us a price yet (you
know,
> let us show it to you first then we'll discuss the price) but I wonder how
> to do a sort of ROI on something like this.
>
> Also I was hoping that maybe someone has used and and could let us know
how
> it has "lighten the "stress load" for DBAs"?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:17 PM
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>
>
> Jeff,
>
> This product rings a bell somewhere in the back of my head, and it's
> an alarm bell at that. Not sure why. Anyhow there are three different
> companies with a product named AutoDBA on the web. Which one are you
> talking about??
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:29 PM
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone use or has anyone used a database performance/monitoring tool
> called AutoDBA. What are the pro's and con's? Right now they are trying
to
> get us to look at it and evaluate it. Luckily my manager has told them
that
> they need to sell the product to myself and the other Jr. DBA here before
we
> will purchase it. I'm guessing my hesitations about using a canned
software
> to monitor our databases are probably unjustified. One concern is how
much
> time will I spend to monitor the monitor (how much effort is needed to
> install and configure the software)? Also if we start using a software I
> may put me in a position where I won't have to learn and understand the
> concepts. My manager would like it because then it would take away my
> "oracle" work. I already struggle with trying to get time to work on
> "oracle". For example, I always telling him I need time to test by backup
> and recovery (especially the recovery) procedures, yet there is always
some
> "fire" that needs to be put out first. At times I have just taken the
time
> to do some minor testing but would always like more time to be more
> confident of my processes.
>
> Anyway, back to the question. I would also like to know in general how do
> most of you feel about software that monitors/fixes your databases? Any
> other recommendations? Any favorites?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Eberhard
> Database Administrator
> Rolls-Royce Gear Systems
>
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