Oracle-L: RE: AutoDBA

From: Goulet, Dick <DGoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 06:03:38 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0057CB5D.20030408060338@fatcity.com>

Jared,

Don't hold your breath, we'd miss you!

Dick Goulet

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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 7:29 PM
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Personally, I just use Perl, sh, or whatever fits the bill, and write my own.

When you write your own, you monitor what you want, when you went, and the monitor does what you want.

Maybe OEM 4.0 will change my mind, we'll see.

Jared

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Jeff,

                 Ah Yes, now I remember.  And I believe the alarm bell is

still valid. But you do ask a good question, is anyone out there using the product?? Maybe you should ask for some references!!

Dick Goulet

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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:24 PM
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Dick,

You've had contact with it before:

http://www.orafaq.net/archive/oracle-l/2002/08/21/140824.htm http://www.orafaq.net/archive/oracle-l/2002/08/21/212838.htm

The company contacting us about it is Insession technologies: http://www.insession.com/autoDBA/default.asp (Note at the bottom of the screen says "*AutoDBA is developed and supported
by Senware, Inc. and distributed by Insession Technologies")

I guess another part of my question is what is a reasonable price to pay for
monitoring tools of this sort? They haven't told us a price yet (you know,
let us show it to you first then we'll discuss the price) but I wonder how to do a sort of ROI on something like this.

Also I was hoping that maybe someone has used and and could let us know how
it has "lighten the "stress load" for DBAs"?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:17 PM
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Jeff,

                 This product rings a bell somewhere in the back of my

head, and it's
an alarm bell at that. Not sure why. Anyhow there are three different companies with a product named AutoDBA on the web. Which one are you talking about??

Dick Goulet

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Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:29 PM
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Hi,

Does anyone use or has anyone used a database performance/monitoring tool called AutoDBA. What are the pro's and con's? Right now they are trying to
get us to look at it and evaluate it. Luckily my manager has told them that
they need to sell the product to myself and the other Jr. DBA here before we
will purchase it. I'm guessing my hesitations about using a canned software
to monitor our databases are probably unjustified. One concern is how much
time will I spend to monitor the monitor (how much effort is needed to install and configure the software)? Also if we start using a software I may put me in a position where I won't have to learn and understand the concepts. My manager would like it because then it would take away my "oracle" work. I already struggle with trying to get time to work on "oracle". For example, I always telling him I need time to test by backup and recovery (especially the recovery) procedures, yet there is always some
"fire" that needs to be put out first. At times I have just taken the time
to do some minor testing but would always like more time to be more confident of my processes.

Anyway, back to the question. I would also like to know in general how do most of you feel about software that monitors/fixes your databases? Any other recommendations? Any favorites?

Thanks,
Jeff Eberhard
Database Administrator
Rolls-Royce Gear Systems

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