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Re:Agnostic references for Pracle v SQl Server 2000

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:11:57 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004D6F23.20020923111157@fatcity.com>


Martin,

    I'm making the assumption that your not keen on the "vendor lock-in" idea, which has a lot of problems attached to it. But at the same time it appears that your client "does not care". Pity, I've seen several companies that died due to being a MicroSlop only solution provider. But I digress. I will make a suggestion, go to www.ianywhere.com and see what Sybase has to say about their zero admin version. They claim to have the LOWEST total cost of ownership of anyone, including MicroSoft. And for a low usage site might be the better pick.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Martin Kendall" <mkendall_at_oracle-rescue.com>
Date:       9/23/2002 10:33 AM

Hello all. I need to provide a one page report on why it may be beneficial for an organisation with light usage, small DB to move from Oracle to SQL Server. Their request is purely due to having a recognition of their charity status by Microsoft and therefore being able to get everything
at a much reduced price.  

It is bad enough that they do not have experienced Oracle DBA's on site, now it seems that they are attracted by the apparent ease of use / setup/ Graphical everything.
They are even looking at adopting the same development technology as one of their main benefactors as this may help them win further funding from such a benefactor. I am talking .NET and VB.  

I am also asked to phrase my paper from the point of "future proofing" their business technology.  

I am struggling with the agnostic approach when taking into account the concept of "vendor lock-in".  

It seems that cost is everything. But they will need to accept that cost is not just what you pay
for the base product.  

People, I am not really interested in a "religious war" on this - no doubt such discussion types
have appeared on this List before. All I am asking for is pointers to any ref. material that you may know of.  

Happy days !  

Martin    

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>beneficial</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> for an organisation with light usage, small DB to move<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>from</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Oracle to SQL Server.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Their request is purely due to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>having</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> a recognition of their charity status by Microsoft and therefore being able to get everything<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>at</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> a much reduced price.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It is bad enough that they do not have experienced Oracle
<span

class=SpellE>DBA&#8217;s</span> on site,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>now</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> it seems that they are attracted by the apparent ease of use / setup/ Graphical everything.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>They are even looking at adopting the same development technology
as one of their main benefactors as this may help them<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>win</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> further funding from such a benefactor.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>I am talking .NET and VB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am also asked to phrase my paper from the point of &#8220;future
proofing&#8221; their business technology.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am struggling with the agnostic approach when taking into account the concept of &#8220;vendor
lock-in&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It seems that cost is everything.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>But they will need to accept that cost is not just what you pay<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>for</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> the base product.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>People, I am not really interested in a &#8220;religious war&#8221;
on this &#8211; no doubt such discussion types<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>have</span></font></span><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> appeared on this List before.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>All I am asking for is pointers to any ref. material that you may know of.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Happy <span class=GramE>days !</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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