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Brian P
MacLean To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
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03/22/02 02:33 root_at_fatcity.com
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Don't know Dennis. They said I was qualified for the position, but that there might be a personality conflict (kind of ironic isn't it). I admit, I'm a hard changing fool, but only because I'm passionate about what I do. Funny thing too, the majority of the best people I've worked with and learned the most from are people others found hard to work with. Oh well, things always work out the way they do for a reason. I myself ended up with a job at the company I wanted anyway.
Brian P. MacLean
Oracle DBA, OCP8i
DENNIS WILLIAMS
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Brian - Hmm. . . let me see, you started work at 8 years old, so even with
20 years of experience you still meet the "under 30" image they had in mind
when they advertised the position. The nature of the questions certainly
sound slanted in that direction. But maybe I'm just being a paranoid DBA
with over 20 years experience.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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(hope this answers your question Lisa)
Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = ON;
I interviewed for a DBA position there recently. I was not able to give my best interview because I had the worst cold I've had in several years (cough, dizzy, slight temperature, etc.). So in there defense, and mine, they did not see me at my best.
My issue was with the interview questions. I must have answered 10 "what if" personal conflict questions. It got to the point that I should have
asked "are personal conflicts a problem here". They also ask questions like "what don't you like about your job", "what was the worst recovery you ever had that was a bad situation", and "how do you feel about beingbeeped at 3 in the morning". I don't know about you all, but I LOVE what I do, no recover is a bad situation when you KNOW that you have what it takes to do recover (both files and experience), and after 20 years in this industry I accept and understand the requirement of the 3 in the morning calls. Hell, some of the best fun and most rewarding things I've done have been a result of 3 a.m. calls. I just couldn't shake the feeling they didn't trust or believe me.
They also didn't ask what I consider some basic but important questions for any DBA. Like: How to detect, diagnose, and recover from an instance hang; What do you do when a user calls and says the system is slow or that they can't connect; How to capture application SQL errors from the db side when the application is not providing a quality ORA-nnnnn message.
I felt they had a bit to much of the "Best of the Best of the Best" attitude as far as the Mayo Clinic goes. Yes they have done great work in the field of medicine, and I commend them for that. But there are many great medical organizations and no "one" is the best.
Lastly, it's importaint to remember that Rochester is a company town. About 85,000 people live there. And from what I gathered, 25,000 of them work for Mayo. If you go there be prepared to think, live, breath, and die (at) Mayo.
As Dennis Miller says "that's just my opinion I could be wrong "
I wish them well.
Alter session set RANT_SWITCH = OFF;
Brian P. MacLean
Oracle DBA, OCP8i
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Brian, you can't say that and not say why... is the Mayo a sweatshop? Please do share, even if it's off the list. I used to live in Minneapolis and miss it terribly.
Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Baby Oven.
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
954-935-4117
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