Oracle-L: RE: Oracle Hungry for Money

From: MacGregor, Ian A. <ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:54:48 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00427F71.20020313125448@fatcity.com>

Even worse, Oracle made Intermedia free shortly after 8.1.6 was released . However if you chose to install Intermedia, you also had to install the Spatial Data Option which is not free. Installing is not the same as using, but still ...

I have to agree that Oracle should not install extra cost extensions by default. It is quite possible the person assigned to be the company's first DBA has little experience and no idea what's in the licensing agreement. This DBA does a default install and soon the company has rampant use of options for which it is not licensed.

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.edu

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I think you will find that there are lots of people out there who are using partitioning without paying for it.... It has always been an extra cost option....

My problem is that Oracle installs it as a default option when you install the RDBMS, which I think is wrong. If you have an extra cost option, then it should not be available by default.

MOVMMY, Robert

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration

The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Watch out! I just got off the phone with our Oracle "sales rep". He was asking me if I needed information on Partitioning or OLAP for our data warehouse project. I told him that we are on 8.1.7, so the OLAP option isn't available. To keep him from going into a long speil on Partitioning, I told him that I have already implemented that, which is true.
He jumped on that and told me that we aren't licensed for it. He followed up with sending me a quote for $23,800 to cover the fact that we are using the option, which we didn't pay for. I was always told that we have a "site" license (higher ed), and he said that our license was purchased prior to Partioning being available, so that doesn't count.

I'm telling everyone about this as a heads-up. It appears that Oracle is digging for money, and I feel that the approach that was used was done to trick me into admitting that I had implemented the feature.

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