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Re: The OCP bar is being raised

From: orantdba <orantdba_at_netscape.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:35:50 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003EC722.20020110080307@fatcity.com>

Hi all,

The oca exams are the same exams you would take on the way to being an OCP under the current program.  The only difference is along the way you can get a designation of OCA.  Not unlike Microsofts MCP.

John

Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com wrote:         

>From the website:

  --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required exams
  --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level.   

      

The way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can get the  OCP.  So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and pass the OCA,  you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and you cannot even take  the OCM.
      

--Chris
           

-----Original Message-----

    From: SARKAR, Samir [mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com]     

    Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:28 AM     To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'
    Cc: 'Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com'
    Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised          

    Chris,
     
    Am not clear
on  this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5 exams....right ?? So, if we get the

    OCP Associate
after passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another 3 exams for getting

   OCP
    or do we have
to go through all the 5 exams all over again ??

     
    I think we can
directly sit for the OCP tests though instead of going through the OCA. But to get the

    OCP Master,
we will necessarily have to b a OCP.

     
    Do correct me
if I am wrong though.

     
    Regards,
    Samir
     
    Samir Sarkar
    Oracle DBA - Lennon
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-----Original Message-----

      From: Bowes, Chris      [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]
      Sent: 10 January 2002      15:05
      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
      Subject:      RE: The OCP bar is being raised
      
      
      I'd say the cost is being raised.  Look at the  
   requirements for each.  You can't just take the OCM exam.  No we     
would first have to get the OCA.  Whether or not we need the entry      level
cert we have to have it.  Then, and only then, can we take the      OCP. 
Then and only then, can we take the OCM and that is after we take      these
REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed.  So someone the caliber of Steve      Adams
or Jared Still, has to spend money in a class that they could probably

   teach from memory before they can get certification and that is after

     getting 2 other certs that have no value to them.  Call me a cynic,
but      to me, this is nothing but a money grab.
      From the website:
      --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the
exams      required
      -- for the Oracle Associate level of your      selected
job role. Typically, 
      --two exams are      required; the first one can be
taken via the Internet, 
      --while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored
environment. By      
      --completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way
     toward achieving the
      -- Oracle Certified      Professional credential. 
      
      --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you
must pass      all required exams 
      --in your selected job role,      including those at
the Associate level. 
      
      --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must
first be an      Oracle 
      --Certified Professional. Additionally,      achieving
your OCM credential 
      --requires attending      two advanced level Oracle
University courses from 
      --the list shown on this page as well as passing the
OCM Practicum      exam. 
      
      --Chris
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From:      dgoulet_at_vicr.com [

mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com
]
      Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM
      To:      Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
      Subject: The      OCP bar is being raised
      
      Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's
about      time:
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ---
      Introducing two new levels of      Oracle Certified
Professional (OCP) Achievement 
       
      A recent *IDC report on IT Education      and Training
Services quoted database
      professionals      and network engineers as the fastest-growing
areas of Professional
      Certification. And in an October survey from *crn.com
on      Certification, 58% of
      respondents said that it is      very difficult to find
qualified Oracle Certified
      Professionals-Database Administrators. 
      To meet this demand, we have recently introduced
two new      levels of professional
      achievement to DBAs (and soon      to be released to
Application and Java Developers
      worldwide): 
      The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level
     Oracle qualification
      requiring successful completion      of two exams.
      The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) --      an advanced
qualification for Oracle
      Certified      Professionals (OCP), that requires students
to take a practicum exam
      on-sitee at an Oracle University education center.  
   
      Visit
      
http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html
      
      for more information
      IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001
      crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct
2001
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