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Hmmmm.......so all we have
to do is appear for 2 exams and get OCA and then appear for
the
remaining 3 exams and
upgrade ourselves to OCP.......or do we need to take all the 5 exams
all over again
??
Samir
Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon
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<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bowes, Chris
[mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]Sent: 10 January 2002
15:35To: SARKAR, Samir; 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'Cc: Bowes,
ChrisSubject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised
From
the website:
--To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass
all required exams --in your selected job role,
including those at the Associate level.
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The
way I read that, you have to have the OCA exams before you can get the
OCP. So if you take and pass the OCP, until you pay for and pass the
OCA, you cannot get the OCP certificat and recognition and you cannot
even take the OCM.
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: SARKAR, Samir
[mailto:Samir.SARKAR_at_nottingham.sema.slb.com] Sent: Thursday,
January 10, 2002 10:28 AMTo: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'Cc:
'Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com'Subject: RE: The OCP bar is being
raised
<FONT
face=Arial>Chris,
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Am not clear on
this. To b an OCP, we require to pass 5 exams....right ?? So, if we get
the
OCP Associate after
passing 2 exams, we need to pass only another 3 exams for getting
OCP
or do we have to go
through all the 5 exams all over again ??
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I think we can directly
sit for the OCP tests though instead of going through the OCA. But to get
the
OCP Master, we will
necessarily have to b a OCP.
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Do correct me if I am
wrong though.
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<FONT
face=Arial>Regards,
<FONT
face=Arial>Samir
Samir Sarkar
Oracle DBA - Lennon
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Bowes, Chris [mailto:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]Sent: 10 January 2002 15:05To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: The OCP bar is being raised I'd say the cost is being raised. Look at the requirements for each. You can't just take the OCM exam. No we would first have to get the OCA. Whether or not we need the entry level cert we have to have it. Then, and only then, can we take the OCP. Then and only then, can we take the OCM and that is after we take these REQUIRED classes from Oracle Ed. So someone the caliber of Steve Adams or Jared Still, has to spend money in a class that they could probably teach from memory before they can get certification and that is after getting 2 other certs that have no value to them. Call me a cynic, but to me, this is nothing but a money grab. From the website: --To become an Oracle Associate, you must pass the exams required -- for the Oracle Associate level of your selected job role. Typically, --two exams are required; the first one can be taken via the Internet, <FONT size=2>--while subsequent exams must be taken in a proctored environment. By --completing your Oracle Associate, you are half-way toward achieving the -- Oracle Certified Professional credential. --To become an Oracle Certified Professional, you must pass all required exams --in your selected job role, including those at the Associate level. --To become an Oracle Certified Master, you must first be an Oracle --Certified Professional. Additionally, achieving your OCM credential --requires attending two advanced level Oracle University courses from <FONT size=2>--the list shown on this page as well as passing the OCM Practicum exam. --Chris -----Original Message----- From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [<A href="mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com">mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT size=2>Subject: The OCP bar is being raised Anyone care to comment on the following, IMHO it's about time: <FONT size=2>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Introducing two new levels of Oracle Certified Professional (OCP) Achievement <FONT size=2> A recent *IDC report on IT Education and Training Services quoted database <FONT size=2>professionals and network engineers as the fastest-growing areas of Professional Certification. And in an October survey from *crn.com on Certification, 58% of <FONT size=2>respondents said that it is very difficult to find qualified Oracle Certified Professionals-Database Administrators. To meet this demand, we have recently introduced two new levels of professional achievement to DBAs (and soon to be released to Application and Java Developers <FONT size=2>worldwide): The Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) -- an entry-level Oracle qualification requiring successful completion of two exams. The Oracle Certified Master (OCM) -- an advanced qualification for Oracle <FONT size=2>Certified Professionals (OCP), that requires students to take a practicum exam on-sitee at an Oracle University education center. Visit <A target=_blank href="http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html">http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/news/index.html?certlevels.html for more information IDC, IT Education and Training, Sept 2001 <FONT size=2>crn.com, Certification: What's Hot, What's Not, Oct 2001 <FONT size=2>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- -- <FONT size=2>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A target=_blank href="http://www.orafaq.com">http://www.orafaq.com <FONT size=2>-- Author: INET: dgoulet_at_vicr.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists <FONT size=2>-------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). <FONT size=3>___________________________________________________________________________Thisemail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received thisemail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited.If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627
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