RE: Siebel - ODB.

From: Mercadante, Thomas F <NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:20:34 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003D04FD.20011129050019@fatcity.com>

Lisa,

One
arguement I lost regarding business rules (foreign keys) in the application, rather than in the database was that it made the application "database independent", not relying on database tools that might exist in one database but not another. In theory, this gave this person more opportunity to sell the application to another organization that would prefer to use, say, DB2 rather than Oracle.

I'm
not agreeing with the philosophy, but at the time, it made some business sense.
Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional

-----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com]Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:26 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Siebel - ODB.
 Why implement it in the database when you can write more bloated, more complex code? Databases don't work anyway. It also gives us a chance to issue more patches.

I have NEVER understood why some people take the angle of not letting the database do what it is designed for. And I don't think I ever will. I pray I never meet the DBA's of Yore and Yesteryear.
 Rant on, Mark!
 Lisa Koivu Oracle Database
 Bimbo. Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 954-935-4117

-----Original Message----- From: Mark
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BAH!! These bloody application providers leaving the integrity to their bloody
applications instead of leaving it in it's rightful place in the database!!! Makes my life 10 times harder!!! Got no consideration at all have they?

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 :P
 Thanks!
 Mark
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    face=Arial size=2>Linda.Miller-Coker_at_jpmorgan.com <FONT 
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We use Siebel and no it does NOT have RI.

"Mark Leith"
<mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk>@fatcity.com on 11/28/2001 10:56:07 AM

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 Hi Gang,
 Does anybody use Siebel - I believe it's a CRM package?
 I'm trying to find out of the Siebel application enforces RI within the database or the application? Anybody know?
 Cheers
 Mark
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