but it's guvmint werk
find me a nice job somewhere, and send someone to help transport my
livestock (I ain't foolish enough to move 4 geriatric cats on my own)
and we'll talk
- Scott Shafer <sknd100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> You adapt quickly. And the Gods invented air conditioning,
> margaritas,
> and habanero salsa for just such environments.
>
> --S
>
>
> Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> >
> > 'cause there ain't enough money in the world to bail you out?
> >
> > The only problem I have with Texas is the heat. I have good friends
> > down there (you guys all know who you are and if you don't, WAKE
> UP)...
> > but I went down over Memorial Day weekend to SA and nearly melted
> from
> > the humidity. This does nothing to induce me to move South.
> >
> > --- Jeffery Stevenson <jeff_at_mpv.com> wrote:
> > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
> > >
> > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in
> Austin,
> > > but
> > > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened
> up so
> > > a lot
> > > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the
> bigger
> > > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I
> see
> > > though is
> > > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting
> to
> > > hear
> > > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we
> shouldn't
> > > have
> > > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not
> bad
> > > here
> > > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great
> place to
> > > live.
> > >
> > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4
> times
> > > as many
> > > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the
> market
> > > for a
> > > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
> > >
> > > Jeffery Stevenson
> > > Databeast Slayer
> > > Medical Present Value, Inc.
> > > Austin, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Description for
> > >
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get
> past
> > > some
> > > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives!
> > > Hehehe...
> > >
> > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> > > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up
> > > competing for
> > > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
> > > looking in
> > > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
> > > consulting, or
> > > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry
> however
> > > is
> > > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies
> much
> > > though.
> > >
> > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and
> better
> > > ways to
> > > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way
> to go
> > > in
> > > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th
> largest
> > > city
> > > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters,
> lots
> > > of
> > > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government,
> yearly
> > > drought,
> > > HOT for 9 months of the year.
> > >
> > > --Scott Shafer
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
> > > Description for
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort
> of
> > > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being
> job
> > > > description.
> > > >
> > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech"
> types
> > > right
> > > now.
> > > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large
> number of
> > > failed
> > > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of
> Austin
> > > failures
> > > > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> > > >
> > > > Netpliance
> > > > Hand Technologies
> > > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > > > DrKoop.Com
> > > > Garden.Com
> > > > Furniture.Com
> > > > carOrder.Com
> > > >
> > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added
> to
> > > the glut
> > > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers
> > > reducing staff
> > > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM,
> Perficient
> > > and CSC.
> > > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
> > > pretty much
> > > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been
> really
> > > hurt by
> > > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the
> startups.
> > > >
> > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even
> the
> > > Austin
> > > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
> > > "brain-drain" as
> > > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they
> > > posited
> > > the
> > > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
> > > tragedy was
> > > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9
> months
> > > ago,
> > > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could
> spell
> > > "PC" off
> > > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> > > >
> > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of
> "Computer
> > > Jobs"
> > > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior
> positions
> > > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies
> advertise,
> > > but that
> > > > trend has dried up as well.
> > > >
> > > > It anin't pretty folks.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet
> the
> > > guy) in
> > > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the
> height
> > > of the
> > > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to
> come
> > > to
> > > > Austin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David A. Barbour
> > > > Oracle DBA, OCP
>
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