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Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to the headers. I thought it _WAS_ on
the OT list...
I will make sure Rachel flogs me with wet spaghetti as penance.
--S
Rachel Carmichael wrote:
>
> at this point guys.... move this to the ot list before Jared gets
> annoyed...
>
> but while I have your attention:
>
> I've SEEN Scott and Jeff in the same room. Ladies, find those chastity
> belts -;)
>
> --- Scott Shafer <sknd100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Doh! Sorry for the oversite - lots on my mind lately. You're
> > definitely invited, Jeff. We'll work sumthin' out.
> >
> > --S
> >
> >
> > Jeffery Stevenson wrote:
> > >
> > > Bail money??? Why wasn't I invited? :)
> > >
> > > Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in
> > Austin, but
> > > not as prevalent as it used to be. VC money has been tightened up
> > so a lot
> > > of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the
> > bigger
> > > companies are just cutting back to save money). The problem I see
> > though is
> > > that companies seem to be trimming back too much. I'm starting to
> > hear
> > > little rumours here and there of companies going, "Maybe we
> > shouldn't have
> > > gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?" It's not bad
> > here
> > > though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place
> > to live.
> > >
> > > Guvm'nt jobs? Eep! Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4
> > times as many
> > > Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market
> > for a
> > > friend who's looking at this area. That scared me...
> > >
> > > Jeffery Stevenson
> > > Databeast Slayer
> > > Medical Present Value, Inc.
> > > Austin, TX
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:30 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Description for
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet. Just let me get
> > past some
> > > current difficulties. We could leave bail money with the wives!
> > Hehehe...
> > >
> > > San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
> > > Austin/Dallas/Houston. I'll probably regret this (if I end up
> > competing for
> > > a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
> > looking in
> > > SA. Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
> > consulting, or
> > > big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc). The largest industry however
> > is
> > > tourism, which has been hammered. This doesn't affect techies much
> > though.
> > >
> > > If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better
> > ways to
> > > "break things and kill people", then DOD contracting is the way to
> > go in
> > > Central Texas. Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th
> > largest city
> > > in the US. Upsides: steady work, excellent food, mild winters,
> > lots of
> > > recreational activities. Downsides: Inept city government, yearly
> > drought,
> > > HOT for 9 months of the year.
> > >
> > > --Scott Shafer
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:05 PM
> > > Description for
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks folks for the replies I got. Compiled them into a sort of
> > > > superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being
> > job
> > > > description.
> > > >
> > > > The job market in Austin is really poor for us "high-tech" types
> > right
> > > now.
> > > > This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number
> > of failed
> > > > dot coms and Internet business ventures. A partial list of
> > Austin
> > > failures
> > > > includes (but is by no means limited to):
> > > >
> > > > Netpliance
> > > > Hand Technologies
> > > > ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
> > > > DrKoop.Com
> > > > Garden.Com
> > > > Furniture.Com
> > > > carOrder.Com
> > > >
> > > > Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to
> > the glut
> > > > of talent out on the streets. Other large Austin employers
> > reducing staff
> > > > in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient
> > and CSC.
> > > > Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
> > pretty much
> > > > toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been
> > really hurt by
> > > > the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the
> > startups.
> > > >
> > > > It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even
> > the Austin
> > > > American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
> > "brain-drain" as
> > > > the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher. Last week, they
> > posited
> > > the
> > > > major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
> > tragedy was
> > > > the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9
> > months ago,
> > > > went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell
> > "PC" off
> > > > the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
> > > >
> > > > The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of
> > "Computer Jobs"
> > > > to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions
> > > > available. We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise,
> > but that
> > > > trend has dried up as well.
> > > >
> > > > It anin't pretty folks.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the
> > guy) in
> > > > San Antonio can give us a more regional perspective. At the
> > height of the
> > > > frenzy, I know a bunch of people who left positions in SA to come
> > to
> > > > Austin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David A. Barbour
> > > > Oracle DBA, OCP
> > > > AISD
> > > > 512-414-1002
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Troiano, Paul
> > > > (CAP, GEFA)" To: Multiple
> > recipients
> > > of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > <Paul.Troiano_at_geca cc:
> > > > pital.com> Subject: RE:
> > Help!: Job
> > > Description for Data Architect
> > > > Sent by:
> > > > root_at_fatcity.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 11/12/2001 05:40
> > > > PM
> > > > Please respond to
> > > > ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How is the job market in Austin?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > [mailto:DBarbour_at_austin.isd.tenet.edu]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:00 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey, the job market isn't any better (worse?) here in
> > Austin-by-God, TX
> > > > than anywhere else. We've got a chance to hire a real talented
> > developer
> > > > (worked with him before - taught me a lot), but his salary is
> > just a bit
> > > > more than the school district is used to paying for
> > "programmers." I
> > > > suggested they come up with a new job description to justify the
> > salary
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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