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Man, that sucks. I am trying to get the account to buy some software to do the mindless checking stuff and I can concentrate on the big stuff as we also do development here as well.
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:14 PM
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You think an 11:1 database to dba ratio is bad? Try about a 35:1 ratio! Just not enough hours in the day to check on them all....
Alan Aschenbrenner
IHS Group
alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com <mailto:alan.aschenbrenner_at_ihs.com>
(303)-858-6394
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:47 PM
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Hey, I was just telling someone I was in hell. A database to dba ratio
of 11:1, all 24x7 is simply
not a good ratio.
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:33 PM
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Ross, you are being superceded as the chief goof. Get busy!
Me, I had to kiss the current dbas' feet, shower them with compliments about their databases, ask them tough questions, show them how to write pl/sql, grow some grey hair and buy them beer. I also planted a potato in my back yard behind the tree stump after practicing my Wicca rituals, night chants and fire dances. Within one year I was a dba :) and it's been hell ever since.
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:56 PM
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Nope. DBAs are chosen, not trained. To become a good DBA one
must
go to Mt. Sinai and talk to a burning bush. If the bush talks back,
then the applicant will have the power to split the seas of data into
partitions. Instead of appealing to pharaoh to let his people go, the
real
DBA uses the phrase "will you, please, lay off that @#! beeper and leave
me
alone?". DBAs communicate with the developers/users in terms of
commandments.
Disobeying them can have excruciating consequences for all those who
dare to
disrespect a DBA. To make, the long story short, being a DBA is a
calling
and
not a job.
Sincerely yours,
BDBAFH
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:41 AM
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At 09:50 PM 6/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Do you want a paper to say you are marginally qualified to be a DBA or
do
>you actually want to learn database administration?
>
To a large extent I agree with you about the relative
unimportance of paper
qualifications. However, one thing that a formal course of study is good
for, is to make you aware of all the nooks and crannies of your chosen
subject. For instance, if you are self-taught, and the subject of
replication never comes up, you may never even *know* that it exists.
Or,
unless you are very self-disciplined, you may never do anything with
crash
recovery until actually presented with the need (a bad time to be
learning
it, IMO).
So if you are going to go the self-study route, have a formal
plan of some
kind -- whether it's getting hold of the course curriculum for Oracle
courses, of just getting some good DBA books and going through them
beginning to end.
Dennis Taylor
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