Before I respond... what does "dwy ceinoig" mean?
I guess it really just comes down to preference, and
what you happen to know. I hated SS 6x, as I was
working with an application that required some... odd
DB support. In order to properly support the
application... well, you obviously read my last post.
I'm not saying that MS has put out a bad product, far
from it, I just had a very hard time finding those
dials and knobs. That being said, I've never worked
with 2000, and my experience with 7 was mostly design,
but even then, they still had a 'hand-off' kind of
approach.
I stand by my earlier statements, tho... I prefer to
have a higher level of control. I still use an SLR
camera, because Auto-focus annoys me.... :)
Claudia, I'm sorry, I forgot to add some more specific
stuff... MS SQL Server will store images. Both Oracle
and SQL Server can store enormous amounts of info. If
you go out to http://terraserver.microsoft.com they
have a database, something on the order of two or
three terrabytes, that stores satellite images and
maps. It was built when 7.0 was released to show off
the new engine, and its storage capabilities...
I apologize if I sounded closed minded, I was merely
pointing to some of my experience with the dbs.
- "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_stars-smi.com> wrote:
> I have heard from a very bright MS
> field engineer that a surface-level
> understanding of SS2K is indeed like
> this, but, when I asked him if there
> were "dials and knobs" to tweak the
> database, he assured me there were
> tons of them, but most were hidden
> from the, er, "casual observer".
>
> This is good for two reasons.
> One is that the casual observer should
> keep his freakin' fingers out of the db engine.
> Another is that it *is* self-tuning,in some areas
> to an extent that oracle isn't quite yet, and
> so why do you want "the right hand" turning the
> dials while "the left hand" is, too?
>
> In any case, punchline: Don't underestimate
> something
> until you know it well. I know just enough about
> ss2k
> ( very little ) to approach it with respect. Odd
> thing
> is, once we know something (or indeed someONE! )
> well,
> we are more likely to respect its unique set of
> abilities.
>
> my "dwy ceinoig"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:56 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I think the single biggest difference (of many)
> between MSSQL Server and Oracle is the level of
> control you have over what the database is doing. MS
> continues update SQL Server with one thought in
> mind,
> 'Get rid of the DBA'. That's their pitch, in a lot
> of
> cases. DBA's are expensive. MS SQL Server is written
> so the coders can handle the database. And that's
> fine, if that's what you are looking for. If you
> need
> it to do something that MS hasn't forseen, however,
> you kind of have to go around your head to get to
> your
> rear.
>
> Martin Bonner
> Oracle DBA
> Ex-MS SQL Server DBA
>
> --- bunyamin karadeniz <bunyamink_at_havelsan.com.tr>
> wrote:
> > I do not agree with you Abdul
> > Because , Yes You said that MS Sql server only
> > works on MS Platforms .That
> > is true .
> > But do not forget that ORACLE has platform
> > problems too.
> > For ex. you will publish your application
> > developed in oracle forms in
> > internet , DB Server + OAS + Forms Server( if
> there
> > are version problems in
> > forms and OAS ) You have to set these up. You
> have
> > to configure lots of
> > thing . That is a trouble . But after you setup
> sql
> > server and iis . You can
> > write applications in asp,asp+,jscript....... and
> > embed into iis. No such
> > complicated configurings.
> > **********************************************
> > Bunyamin K. Karadeniz
> > Information Technologies Dept.
> > Database Group Tel :90-312-2873565/1681
> > HAVELSAN Ankara / TURKEY
> > **********************************************
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:00 PM
> >
> >
> > > Claudia,
> > >
> > > Oracle is in Database business since 1976 (if I
> am
> > not wrong) when
> > Microsoft
> > > was not born. With Oracle you have openness to
> all
> > popular (most stable to
> > > less stable and shareware) operating systems.
> > Where as with SQL you are
> > > limiting yourself to MS.
> > >
> > > Oracle has its own line of products closely
> > integrated to each other
> > > Designer / Forms / Reports / JDeveloper/
> Database
> > / Application Server / .
> > > Etc. MS does not have such line of product.
> > >
> > > To my understanding if you use designer, it will
> > generate the complete web
> > > enabled application. If you use Application
> Server
> > your application is up
> > on
> > > the Internet or Intranet.
> > >
> > > In short Oracle has tools that help you design
> > business application in
> > > minimum possible time for any platform and
> > configurations.
> > >
> > > HTH!
> > > Aleem
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 3:11 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: microsoft sql vs. oracle
> > >
> > > I know this may be a very obvious question, but
> I
> > need to know what would
> > > you use oracle vs. miscrosoft sql?
> > >
> > > Is microsoft sql capable of storing images?
> > > What is the maximum storage for oracle vs.
> > microsoft?
> > > etc...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > --------------Claudia Rivera-----------------
> > > DMC, Tech. Media Coordinator
> > > crivera_at_utep.edu
> > > http://dmc.utep.edu
> > >
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