RE: Personal Lab for study purposes...

From: Boivin, Patrice J <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 12:11:02 -0400
Message-Id: <10697.123405@fatcity.com>

I learned today that SUN plans to discontinue support for LINUX on = their
hardware, LINUX is many times slower than Solaris on their hardware = anyway
because LINIUX wasn't compiled using SUN's own compilers.

As for Oracle on NT ... remember Oracle7 was their first attempt at = porting
it over to the new platform, they have learned something since. = Although
there is a barrier I don't think they will ever be able to solve: Java = is
r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w on NT. I suspect it has to do with the way Windows treats it, Java must be faster on UNIX because it doesn't have to = trickle
through all those GUI API layers.

Java object-oriented on top of a GUI-based, partly object-oriented = operating
system. On UNIX there is only one object-oriented layer, hence faster = on
UNIX. Microsoft decided to try to speed up Java on Windows by using ActiveX = or
some other way of bypassing the Windows APIs, to speed it up, but that = was
shot down.

Would this be correct?

The PC Card info from Sun is interesting, I thought of buying one for = home
last year, but I am still stuck with my old 6x86 155MHz clone at home, = no
money... and Christmas is coming, I have to buy a new oil furnace, the = cars
need maintenance, and on and on...

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rahul Dandekar [SMTP:orcldba_at_hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 11:06 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Personal Lab for study purposes...

>=20

> Guys,

>=20
> First of all, let me tell you that I am member of technet and thanks =
for
> that advice. But downloading 600MB from internet is something which I
> would
> not like to do. What I want to know is that if I have access to a CD =
of
> Oracle for NT (official copy) then can I use that instead of technet
> download?

>=20
> > I would get a sparc, Ultra 5, 10's are not that pricey and would =
just
> need
> > to get a few hard disks (scsi) and a Symbios scsi card (PCI PC but
> supported
> > in sparc at $60, little known fact). If that was not possible, I =
would
> use
> > Solaris Intel or Linux. Unless you plan on supporting NT, NT is =
good to
> > start with if your not really comfortable with Unix so you can at =
least
> > understand oracle with out the difficult (to some) interface of =
unix.

>=20

> How much would a sparc Ultra 5 or 10 cost for personal use?

>=20

> I am damn sure that Oracle works too much better on UNIX.
> About 4 years back, I was handling a Oracle 7 database on SVR4 for
> a machine made up of 2 Nos of 386 CPUs 16 MB RAM and never had any =
speed
> problems. Well, it was a developent database. But still... And
> at the same time we had 7.3 running on NT box on Pentium Pro with 64M =
and
> it sucked. (Sob sob... but I was having only a DUMB UNIX terminal to =
work.
> And that's when I started hating to use mouse.)
>=20
> Problem is not about the comfort level of UNIX but installing it =
takes
> time. And is not as friendly for a Home use. Dual boot is the option.
> I must admit though that 4 years back, when I set linux at home, I =
was
> unable to configure my modem under it. And until the end I could not
> do it.

>=20

> And how the hell I forgot about Solaris for x86. My mistake I agree.
> Has anyone installed Oracle on Solaris for x86? How much does a
> 'Personal Copy' of Solaris for x86 cost?

>=20

> Thanks and Regards,

>=20

> -Rahul
> --=20
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --=20
> Author: Rahul Dandekar
> INET: orcldba_at_hotmail.com

>=20


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