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Hi Satar,
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I think you should read Seans document, cause I also think you can =
define
some standards for installing Oracle Databases. For example:
-file locations
-naming conventions
-NT settings
-prefered RAID configuration
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I know that this "standards" couldn't be used evertime, but such a =
document
is a checklist where to look for.
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Regards
Volker Sch=F6n=20
E-Mail: mailto:v.schoen_at_inplan.de <mailto:v.schoen_at_inplan.de> =20
http://www.inplan.de <http://www.inplan.de/> =20
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Von: Satar Naghshineh [mailto:Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com]
Gesendet: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:40 AM
An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Betreff: RE: Oracle Win NT Configuration Standards
I must admit, I am at a disadvantage because I didn't read his paper. =
But
here are some questions I have in regards to the ability to standardize
installations:
Again, naming conventions are covered by OFA, if you need a copy, order =
it
from Oracle. There can be no standard database install. If you believe =
in a
standard base install, you probably believe in an answer to someone's
question on "How can I improve my performance on Oracle" or "How do I =
backup
my database".
I've been known to sound mean at times, and I want to let you know that =
is
not my intention. My argument is that there can be no standard base =
install.
If there was a way, then every Joe would be an Oracle DBA and I =
wouldn't
have to work so hard.=20
Regards,
Satar=20
P.S. No offense to Sean either, I don't know the guy, but I appreciate =
his
kind intentions.=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Bowes, Chris [SMTP:Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 10:31 PM=20
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20 Subject: RE: Oracle Win NT Configuration Standards=20 Well, if by standard base, you mean SGA settings, then no. There isno "standard" base. What Sean has is the filenames, locations, data vs index vs other file locations and the like. Based upon that = definition,
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--Chris
Chris.Bowes_at_Kosa.com=20
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From: Satar Naghshineh [ mailto:Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com
<mailto:Satar.Naghshineh_at_irvine.mellesgriot.com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Oracle Win NT Configuration Standards
Is there a standard database? I mean, don't you think that it is
impossible to do? Maybe I need an OLTP database with 100 user =
connection
and someone else wants a DSS database with 5 connections, etc.
Regards,
Satar=20
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From: O'Neill, Sean [SMTP:Sean.ONeill_at_organon.ie]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:46 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle Win NT Configuration Standards=20 Hi Folks,=20 I've put together a document which specifies configurationstandard
Regards,
Sean :)=20
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<P><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, if by standard = base, you mean=20
SGA settings, then no. There is no "standard" base. = What Sean=20
has is the filenames, locations, data vs index vs other file = locations and=20
the like. Based upon that definition, then, yes, you can have = a=20
standard base configuration. His paper (which I read) is = looking at=20
the OFA layouts, what to name the files, what goes in which = tablespace, what=20
to name the archive logs, how to mirror, what raid levels are = preferred,=20
etc. I believe that you can have standards in those areas = that would=20
cover both the OLTP with 100 users and the DSS with only = 5.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--Chris</FONT><FONT = face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris.Bowes_at_Kosa.com</FONT><FONT = face=3DArial> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>-----Original=20 Message-----<BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>From:</FONT></B><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2> = Satar=20 Naghshineh [</FONT><U><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3D"Times New = Roman" size=3D2><A=20 =
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Win NT Configuration Standards<BR><BR></FONT></P> <P><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2>Is there a = standard=20 database? I mean, don't you think that it is impossible to = do? =20 Maybe I need an OLTP database with 100 user connection and = someone else=20 wants a DSS database with 5 connections, etc.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial = size=3D2>Regards,<BR>Satar</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial> </FONT></P> <P> <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D1>-----Original Message-----</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D1>From: </FONT></B><FONT face=3DArial> = </FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D1>O'Neill, Sean = [SMTP:Sean.ONeill_at_organon.ie]</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D1>Sent: </FONT></B><FONT face=3DArial> = </FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D1>Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:46 = PM</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D1>To: </FONT></B><FONT = face=3DArial>=20 </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>Multiple recipients of list=20 ORACLE-L</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><B><FONT = face=3DArial=20 =
Standards</FONT><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></P> <P> <FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Hi=20 Folks,</FONT><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></P> <P> <FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>I've=20 put together a document which specifies configuration = standard</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>guidelines = for Oracle on Win=20 NT platform. If anyone would like to review it</FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will send = it to them=20 backchannel in PDF format for feedback on same.</FONT><FONT = face=3DArial>=20 </FONT></P><BR> <P> <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Regards,</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>Sean :)</FONT><FONT face=3DArial> </FONT></P> <P> <FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>###### ###### ###### = ######</FONT><BR><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2># # = # =20 # # # # # =20 Rookie</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>#### # # = ###### ###### Data</FONT><FONT = face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2># # = # =20 # # # # # =20 Base</FONT><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2># = # =20 ####### ###### # # =20 Adminstrator</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>-------------------------------- =BODY, include a=20 Received on Thu Sep 21 2000 - 03:31:24 CDT
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