Re: How to install oracle on UNIX

rhugga_at_yahoo.com (Keg) wrote in message news:<6c795a35.0410060619.61540614_at_posting.google.com>...
> Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1097040276.815600_at_yasure>...
> > Keg wrote:
> >
> > >>Do precisely what you wrote and I will guarantee a filed installation.
> > >>
>
> You obviously fat-fingered some other mistakes during the install. I
> have done that install procedure hundreds of times, on systems with
> 2GB memory up to 64gb. That is real-world empirical, indisputable
> results. If you want me to write an idiot-proof howto I'd be happy.
>

Idiot-proof install == authored by an idiot???

> > >>Don't set the kernel parameters and reboot and you might as well not
> > >>bother trying at all.
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually there not needed for a database either if your SGA is
> > > small/medium sized. The changes to the parameters in /etc/system raise
> > > the default hard limits and thus allow larger shared memory segments
> > > and etc... I currently have a Solaris 8 64-bit and a Solaris 9 64-bit
> > > system running Oracle with the only change in /etc/system being
> > > increased open file descriptors. Same is true on Linux, rarely have I
> > > seen the need to make changes to the kernel parameters even though
> > > most install guides seem to make this a requirement _prior_ to doing
> > > anything.
> >
> > In addition to what Howard said ... Metalink is overflowing with
> > ORA-03113s from people that tried it your way. Why not just read and
> > follow the docs and get it right the first time?
>
>
> Uhh, you obviously did not read any of this thread. I have gotten it
> right, many times, every time. If you not gonna be productive in this
> thread, take your stubborn bitterness elsewhere. My gawd, grow up
> people.
>

Did you get this 'right' many times, or every time? There is a differnece between the two terms. Interestingly enough I just installed Oracle 9.2.0.1 on a Solaris 8 machine and could NOT get a database created with the default kernel parameters. I think Solaris 8 qualifies as a 'more recent Solaris release', don't you? Or, did I 'fat finger' something? I'll bet not, since I have installed Oracle and built databases since Oracle 6 and have done so on Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, Windows, Linux and RISCos. Verfiable enough for you?

> Usenet is for people helping other people (at least it used to be back
> in the day when people were in this industry because they liked the
> work, not for the salaries) So leave the short-man complex and ego's
> at home. (especially given the various audiences on this list) sheesh.
>

This is a newsgroup, not a buddy list. Oh, and what information leads you to believe we're in this only for the money? I think you'll find yourself in the minority with that train of thought. And on the receiving end of more posts like this. It appears you are the arrogant one in this exchange.  

> You might wanna actually research what the kernel parameters are, what
> they do, and what the system defaults are before you make a fool out
> of yourself. If you also knew, the oracle install docs as of 9i have
> you change some of the kernel parameters to a value that is already
> the default. (thus there is no real change) I have been writing C code
> on Unix for well over 10 years and know these kernel parameters inside
> and out, as well as Solaris/Linux internals. (not to mention the 8
> years I spent at cal-berkeley)
>

Obviously they at Cal-Berkeley didn't teach you spelling, grammar nor manners, much less respect for those who have more ezperience. And, the only fool I see in this thread is you.

> Lastly, before you run your mouth, know what you are talking about.

We're saying the same thing about you.

> If you have not tried a certain claim YOURSELF and SEEN THE RESULTS IN
> PERSON, stfu.

Possibly you should seriously think about taking that same advice.

> I have installed over 100 oracle datbases in the last 10
> years at companies like Sempra, Sprint, Home Depot, 24-Hour Fitness,
> etc.... and I have never modified the default Solaris kernel
> parameters until performance demanded it.

I expect 'performance demands' include actually creating a database ...

> Case and point. Please,
> please, please provide some REAL-WORLD verifyable evidence suggesting
> otherwise, until then your just another loud-mouth DBA throwing buzz
> words around as you stroll into the office at 10am drinking your
> Starbucks coffee.

Now, now, your language is atrocious. Does your mother know you talk that way? You really shouldn't be speaking to DBAs in that fashion, especially since you are NOT in such a position (by your own admission). I personally don't care how much C code you've written in the last 10 years. I do care about what you tell others with respect to installing Oracle on a UNIX platform. When you grow up do let us know. It will be a refreshing change to actually speak to an adult, rather than some kid using a nickname indicative of a wholesale lager resource.

David Fitzjarrell Received on Wed Oct 06 2004 - 17:38:50 CDT