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In article <afidu3$e3id5$1_at_ID-85580.news.dfncis.de>, "Chuck" says...
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>"Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
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>> I am continuing to read your postings with absolute amazement.
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>> You seem to think that your desire to violate Oracle's security model is a
>bug.
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>No I think that it's reasonable to expect an import to restore the database
>to them same condition as when the export was taken? Don't you?
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>> Quotas on tablespaces exist for a reason. They exist to keep people from
>taking
>> space that has not been allocated to them.
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>> If the space hasn't been allocated to you ... the reasonable thing to do
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>> be to increase your allocation. If you can not then either you are trying
>to do
>> something not approved by the DBA responsible for the system (my guess) or
>you
>> believe that the security model should be compromised by people too lazy
>to go
>> in with DBA privileges and enter a single line of SQL at the command
>prompt.
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>> Daniel Morgan
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>You missing the point.Under normal database operation I would agree. But a
>full database import is not normal operation. It's used to copy or restore a
>database. You would expect that if you do a full export of a database, drop
>all non-system users, and then import that export file, that you would have
>the same database you started with. In this case it does not. That is a flaw
>in the design of the import program. If a DBA is doing a full import it
>should not take into account tablespace quotas.
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it would be a trivial way to get around quota's no? (yes, it would). But then again, if I'm a DBA the solution is rather trivial -- alter the user, correct the problem.
DMP files are not a good or practical way to restore your database. That be what backups are all about.
-- Thomas Kyte (tkyte@oracle.com) http://asktom.oracle.com/ Expert one on one Oracle, programming techniques and solutions for Oracle. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861004826/ Opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle CorpReceived on Fri Jun 28 2002 - 18:46:19 CDT