Re: dba mentor

I think there's was an element of truth. Lots of common design patterns work well our of the box in a way they didn't. I fear however that so many of those trying to automate everything haven't read their Pratchett. It's certainly true of automatically tuning human written sql against human written schemas.

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools

On Fri, 5 Oct 2018, 14:30 Lothar Flatz, <l.flatz_at_bluewin.ch> wrote:

> Well, and it is true, is it not? I mean almost. I mean practically almost.
> I mean kind of close. I mean not at all. ;-)
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> Am 05.10.2018 um 15:00 schrieb (Redacted sender Jay.Miller for DMARC):
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> Larry Ellison said the same thing about Oracle 8.
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> I remember an Oracle sales rep saying at a user group meeting that with
> Oracle 8 there is no more need for SQL Tuning, the optimizer will handle
> everything. The entire room burst out laughing.
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> I also remember the Gartner group claiming that programmers would be
> obsolete by the end of the 1990s.
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> As the environment and applications become more complex we seem to have
> more DBA work, not less.
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> Jay Miller
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> Sr. Oracle DBA
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> 201.369.8355
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> Behalf Of *Norman Dunbar
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:13 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: dba mentor
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> Evening Mladen,
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> Regarding "the database will manage itself". I remember back in college in
> 1983ish, the tale then was "programmers won't be needed as programs will be
> written by computers". I'm still waiting.
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> And if the database does manage itself, we DBAs will have more time to
> sort out the cr4p code causing all the performance problems!
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> I for one, won't hold my breath.
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> Cheers,
> Norm.
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> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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