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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> RE: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i
Comes with a Database, Babette... you probably can't use the update... I would say... $55.93 Oracle Applications 11i Release 9 CD Pack for MS Windows.
Do a single tier install and be prepared for one hour install to take the biggest part of a day... A lot has changed since 10.7 all the way around.
Oh, and you will need mks toolkit and Visual C++ compiler (not .net though) and java...
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:babette.turnerunderwood_at_hrdc-drhc.gc.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:55 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
22 CDs huh? Any one know where to get free trial software for Apps? Anyone want to burn me 22 CDs? Just kidding...
I haven't work with Financials since 10.7 and feel like I am rapidly losing my financials skills. I want to set this up at home. I figure I would use it for my personal accounting (I know overkill) but I need SOME reason to use it.
It looks like I can order this from the Oracle store for a nominal price, however, I need some help in figuring out what to order.
Based on the URL:
http://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=11536 ,
Here are the things I think I require:
Oracle 9i Database (9.2.0.1) CD Pack for MS Windows $0 (downloaded this software previously) $55.93 Oracle Applications 11i Release 9 CD Pack for MS Windows $13.93 Oracle Applications 11i Release 9 Update CD Pack for MS windows
And probably one of (but which one?):
Does this look right or are there other components I will also need? Thanks in Advance
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 2003-09-20 3:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Tanel,
You're absolutely right. I had really meant to say that the 8.0.6 software stack finally goes away, but stated it poorly. Unfortunately, I was wrong even there, as the 8.0.6 software stack remains, as you've indicated. All I can say is that I was in the db-tier environment when looking for it, not in the app-tier as I should have been. Sloppy work and sloppy assumptions. Unskyld!
But the Jinitiator is still nowhere to be seen, at least the stuff I've played with (i.e. Conc Mgr forms, SYSADMIN stuff, etc). I've not seen any documentation to confirm this though...
11.5.9 installs the db-tier in v9.2.0.3, but (not unexpectedly) the database that is scraped out of the 22-CD set of installation CDs is not set up very intelligently. For example, the locally-managed tablespaces have all been migrated from dictionary-managed instead of created as UNIFORM or AUTOALLOCATE, which leaves some interesting anomalies for the conscientious DBA, such as NEXT_EXTENT settings which are larger than any of the non-autoextend-enabled datafiles. "Yay!" for using locally-managed, "boo!" for migrating instead of doing it right. Kind of like asking kids to pick up their clothes -- they just move them from the floor to and place them under the bed, making the floor clean but not improving the process of getting clean clothes back into the closet and drawers. Anyway, this is the case in some 70-odd tablespaces. I'm sure this situation has always been present, but it makes one wonder whether Oracle ever consulted a practicing Apps DBA when burning its pre-installed databases onto the CDs. Still, 2 steps forward, 1 step back...
Maybe they did ask someone and regretted it, due to negative feedback? After all, one time-honored way of getting rid of bad news is to kill the messenger. How hard would it be to fix the one template database correctly, before scattering the thing onto a thousand unsuspecting servers? Maybe that is being saved for 11.5.10?
Anyway, thanks for the correction! You are indeed great to have on the list! I hope to see you in Toronto at IOUG, perhaps?
-Tim
on 9/20/03 2:59 AM, Tanel Poder at tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee wrote:
> Tim, > > The Forms&Reports are still there, the main part of Apps will continueusing
> them long time. I've not touched 11.5.9 yet, maybe they've modified new > installation config that way it doesn't require jinitiator on Windows > platforms anymore, but the java forms you see, are still generated using > Oracle Forms (with the exception of SSF, self service framework, which is > HTML&jsp) and reports are still run using Oracle Reports. > > Tanel. > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 8:34 AM > > >> Plus, no more jinitiator in 11.5.9! Finally, the removal of >> SQL*Form/Oracle*Forms/Forms is complete... >> >> >> >> >> on 9/19/03 4:24 PM, Ron Thomas at rthomas_at_hypercom.com wrote: >> >>> >>> John, >>> >>> Thanks for the info. >>> >>> You may want to skip 11.5.8 and go to 11.5.9. There are major patches > (the >>> family pack variety) to >>> apply subsequent to 11.5.8 >>> >>> Ron Thomas >>> Hypercom, Inc >>> rthomas_at_hypercom.com >>> Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- Kernighan >>> >>> >>> >>> john.kanagaraj_at_hd >>> s.com To: > ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com >>> Sent by: cc: >>> ml-errors_at_fatcity Subject: RE: Apps 11.5.8 > and 9i >>> .com >>> >>> >>> 09/19/2003 04:54 >>> PM >>> Please respond to >>> ORACLE-L >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> We are 'in the process' of moving from 11.5.7/8.1.7.4 to > 11.5.8/9.2.0.4 - >>> planning/testing starts after approval. We went ahead and installed a > test >>> db in any case. Make sure that you start out with 9.2.0.4 - the older >>> 9.2.0.3 is buggy and Oracle seems to have ratified .4 recently. >>> >>> John Kanagaraj >>> DB Soft Inc >>> Phone: 408-970-7002 (W) >>> >>> Grace - Getting something we do NOT deserve >>> Mercy - NOT getting something we DO deserve >>> Click on 'http://www.needhim.org' for Grace and Mercy that is freely >>> available! >>> >>> ** The opinions and facts contained in this message are entirely mine > and do >>> not reflect those of my employer or customers ** >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ron Thomas [mailto:rthomas_at_hypercom.com] >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:50 PM >>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>>> Subject: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i >>>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone upgraded Oracle Applications 11.5.8 from database >>>> version 8.1.7 to 9i? Was it good, bad, >>>> indifferent in regards to performance? >>>> >>>> I'd like to because of some of the database enhancements, but >>>> the CIO asked the "performance" >>>> question. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ron Thomas >>>> Hypercom, Inc >>>> rthomas_at_hypercom.com >>>> Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- >>>> Kernighan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >>>> -- >>>> Author: Ron Thomas >>>> INET: rthomas_at_hypercom.com >>>> >>>> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >>>> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >>>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >>>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >>>> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >>>> >>> -- >>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >>> -- >>> Author: John Kanagaraj >>> INET: john.kanagaraj_at_hds.com >>> >>> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >>> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >>> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >> -- >> Author: Tim Gorman >> INET: tim_at_sagelogix.com >> >> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >> >
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