My age is the answer to the question of life, universe and everything.
Unfortunately, I'm no longer in my twenties.
On 2003.09.23 05:13, "Robson, Peter" wrote:
> "Dale Carnegie" ? ! My - that dates you! (Unless it has recently been
> reprinted - after 50 years!)
>
> peter
> edinburgh
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:mladen_at_wangtrading.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:55 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Offshore protests
> >
> >
> > No problem with beating people up. Violence is, contrary to
> > Chris Lawson's
> > book,
> > an integral part of DBA job. BTW, Chris Lawsons' "Art and
> > Science of Tuning
> > Oracle"
> > reads like Dale Carnegie for database administrators.
> > Basically, we should
> > give up
> > our cynical attitude, become indistinguishable from the
> > HR/finance drones
> > and get
> > rid of our geekish culture. Really terrifying stuff.
> >
> > --
> > Mladen Gogala
> > Oracle DBA
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Orr, Steve
> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:35 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: Offshore protests
> > >
> > >
> > > But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join...
> > > Or "make an offer they can't refuse." ;-)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:00 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in dark
> > > and we frequently get burnt by fire.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mladen Gogala
> > > Oracle DBA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]
> > > On Behalf
> > > > Of KENNETH JANUSZ
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:30 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: Re: Offshore protests
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The labor unions would definitely be interested.
> > Teamsters, Steel
> > > > Workers, AFSME?
> > > >
> > > > Ken Janusz, CPIM
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm
> > > sure that all
> > > > > heads
> > > > on
> > > > > the Capitol Hill
> > > > > would turn when both members show up with banners,
> > > demanding better
> > > > > pay
> > > > for
> > > > > starved database
> > > > > administrators. What do you think, should we mandate 9i OCP for
> > > > > joining
> > > > the
> > > > > union? If we were
> > > > > in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the
> > > > White Heart pub
> > > > > (or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry
> > Purvis and
> > > > > exchange the union stories.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mladen Gogala
> > > > > Oracle DBA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
> > > > [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On Behalf
> > > > > > Of DENNIS WILLIAMS
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:45 AM
> > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > > Subject: Offshore protests
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of
> > protesting.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.j>
> > html?articleID=15000146
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dennis Williams
> > > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> > > > > > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > > > > > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
> > > > > > INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
> > > > > >
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