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Tanel,
You're absolutely right. I had really meant to say that the 8.0.6 software stack finally goes away, but stated it poorly. Unfortunately, I was wrong even there, as the 8.0.6 software stack remains, as you've indicated. All I can say is that I was in the db-tier environment when looking for it, not in the app-tier as I should have been. Sloppy work and sloppy assumptions. Unskyld!
But the Jinitiator is still nowhere to be seen, at least the stuff I've played with (i.e. Conc Mgr forms, SYSADMIN stuff, etc). I've not seen any documentation to confirm this though...
11.5.9 installs the db-tier in v9.2.0.3, but (not unexpectedly) the database that is scraped out of the 22-CD set of installation CDs is not set up very intelligently. For example, the locally-managed tablespaces have all been migrated from dictionary-managed instead of created as UNIFORM or AUTOALLOCATE, which leaves some interesting anomalies for the conscientious DBA, such as NEXT_EXTENT settings which are larger than any of the non-autoextend-enabled datafiles. "Yay!" for using locally-managed, "boo!" for migrating instead of doing it right. Kind of like asking kids to pick up their clothes -- they just move them from the floor to and place them under the bed, making the floor clean but not improving the process of getting clean clothes back into the closet and drawers. Anyway, this is the case in some 70-odd tablespaces. I'm sure this situation has always been present, but it makes one wonder whether Oracle ever consulted a practicing Apps DBA when burning its pre-installed databases onto the CDs. Still, 2 steps forward, 1 step back...
Maybe they did ask someone and regretted it, due to negative feedback? After all, one time-honored way of getting rid of bad news is to kill the messenger. How hard would it be to fix the one template database correctly, before scattering the thing onto a thousand unsuspecting servers? Maybe that is being saved for 11.5.10?
Anyway, thanks for the correction! You are indeed great to have on the list! I hope to see you in Toronto at IOUG, perhaps?
-Tim
on 9/20/03 2:59 AM, Tanel Poder at tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee wrote:
> Tim, > > The Forms&Reports are still there, the main part of Apps will continue using > them long time. I've not touched 11.5.9 yet, maybe they've modified new > installation config that way it doesn't require jinitiator on Windows > platforms anymore, but the java forms you see, are still generated using > Oracle Forms (with the exception of SSF, self service framework, which is > HTML&jsp) and reports are still run using Oracle Reports. > > Tanel. > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 8:34 AM > > >> Plus, no more jinitiator in 11.5.9! Finally, the removal of >> SQL*Form/Oracle*Forms/Forms is complete... >> >> >> >> >> on 9/19/03 4:24 PM, Ron Thomas at rthomas_at_hypercom.com wrote: >>
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>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ron Thomas [mailto:rthomas_at_hypercom.com] >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:50 PM >>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>>> Subject: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i >>>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone upgraded Oracle Applications 11.5.8 from database >>>> version 8.1.7 to 9i? Was it good, bad, >>>> indifferent in regards to performance? >>>> >>>> I'd like to because of some of the database enhancements, but >>>> the CIO asked the "performance" >>>> question. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Ron Thomas >>>> Hypercom, Inc >>>> rthomas_at_hypercom.com >>>> Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- >>>> Kernighan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >>>> -- >>>> Author: Ron Thomas >>>> INET: rthomas_at_hypercom.com >>>> >>>> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >>>> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >>>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >>>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >>>> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >>>>
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-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: tim_at_sagelogix.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).Received on Sat Sep 20 2003 - 14:44:40 CDT
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