Re: RE: Oracle Masters exam

if your on a 1099 the classes should be a business expense. dont know about the certification. so you could write off the classes. will only save people 25-28% though...
>
> From: April Wells <awells_at_csedge.com>
> Date: 2003/09/04 Thu PM 12:24:35 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: RE: Oracle Masters exam
>
>
> I though about trying to figure out how to get it to be a write off...
>
> I'm not sure how taking an advanced class will help me to pass the test... I
> kind of would like to take it just to see if I can... but I really don't
> want to be doing it just to drum up Oracle revenue.
>
> April Wells
> Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
> OCP 8, 8i, 9i
> Corporate Systems
> Amarillo Texas
>
> Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
> Adam Wells age 11
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> I was just looking into this. If I understand it correctly, you have to
> take 2 'advanced' classes =>$2000-$5000 total (depending on which courses)
> and then you have to pay $2000 just to take the practicum. This might be
> the real deal and an exciting achievement to work towards but I for one know
> that my company won't be shelling the $$$ out and my pockets are nowhere
> near that deep.
>
> It's too bad. It seems like it would be fun.
>
> Chris
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> So, it's nothing like OCP where you get the certification when you spew out
> certain amount of the green stuff? I wonder how long will it take before
> seeing
> oracle masters who don't know how to take a hot backup.
>
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> Mladen Gogala
> Oracle DBA
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> Sharman
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM
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> And having sat through the beta of the masters exam, let me reiterate what
> Reichert said in the article. You really do have to have the hands on
> experience to pass it. I've been using Oracle for something like 15 years
> now, and training others in the DBA world for 11 or so of those 12 years,
> and this was the hardest exam I've ever sat through.
>
>
> Pete
>
> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
>
> "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
> Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA.
>
>
>
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> Boivin, Patrice J
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:45 AM
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> Oracle Mag has something about the Oracle Masters program...
>
> http://otn.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/03-sep/o53news.html
>
> Patrice.
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I though about trying to figure out how to get it to be a write off...

I'm not sure how taking an advanced class will help me to pass the test... I kind of would like to take it just to see if I can... but I really don't want to be doing it just to drum up Oracle revenue.

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
OCP 8, 8i, 9i
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas

Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
Adam Wells age 11

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Stephens [mailto:ChrisStephens@affina.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Oracle Masters exam

I was just looking into this.  If I understand it correctly, you have to
take 2 'advanced' classes =>$2000-$5000 total (depending on which courses)
and then you have to pay $2000 just to take the practicum.  This might be
the real deal and an exciting achievement to work towards but I for one know
that my company won't be shelling the $$$ out and my pockets are nowhere
near that deep.

It's too bad.  It seems like it would be fun.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

So, it's nothing like OCP where you get the certification when you spew out
certain amount of the green stuff? I wonder how long will it take before
seeing
oracle masters who don't know how to take a hot backup.

--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA

-----Original Message-----
Sharman
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

And having sat through the beta of the masters exam, let me reiterate what
Reichert said in the article.  You really do have to have the hands on
experience to pass it.  I've been using Oracle for something like 15 years
now, and training others in the DBA world for 11 or so of those 12 years,
and this was the hardest exam I've ever sat through.

Pete

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not.  It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA.

-----Original Message-----
Boivin, Patrice J
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Oracle Mag has something about the Oracle Masters program...

http://otn.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/03-sep/o53news.html

Patrice.

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