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Re: Offshore threat

From: <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:39:26 -0800
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i find it difficult to believe. manufacturing jobs have been going over seas for years. Michael Jordan shoes are made in sweat shops in Asia. People are less likely to feel sorry for relatively high payed DBAs than they are for poorer manufacturers and what good did it do them? Their unions didnt save them.

people in India and other countries are just as good as the people in the US. Alot of stuff can be done offshore. You can pay someone in another country a pitance compared to what you pay Americans. Keep in mind that they may pay people in Asian countries 25% of what they pay americans the exchange rate is so huge its probably like 10% when you factor in total cost.

people most likely to be hurt by this are immigrants to the US. Since US citizens without criminal records can always do government work that requires citizenship. Demand for people with clearances is 'insane' in the DC area. Salaries can be 50% higher or more. The market for US citizens who are eligible for clearances has picked up quite a bit(no criminal record, bad debts, or long stays outside the US). However, that is less than 20% of the market.
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> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
> Date: 2003/09/03 Wed AM 09:44:27 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: Offshore threat
>
> All - Recently several shared their experiences with offshore development.
> This month's CIO magazine is devoted to issues surrounding offshore.
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
> 1. The Politics: Backlash
> As a growing number of IT jobs move overseas, some CIOs and
> economists prophesy a political storm against offshore
> outsourcing and a negative perception of those companies
> that practice it.
> http://www.cio.com/archive/090103/backlash.html
>
> ** Don't miss the story's sidebar, "The Visa War," about the
> controversial policies surrounding L-1 and H-1B visas.
> http://www.cio.com/archive/090103/backlash_sidebar_1.html
>
> 2. The People: The Radicalization of Mike Emmons
> How one laid-off IT worker became a guerrilla campaigner
> against offshore outsourcing. "They can't just give away all
> these jobs and expect the country to survive," he says.
> http://www.cio.com/archive/090103/people.html
>
> ** Another programmer who lost his job to an Indian
> outsourcer is willing to relocate in India. But Indian
> officials have told him they don't hire Americans. Read
> about another politicized IT worker in "No Americans Need
> Apply."
> http://www.cio.com/archive/090103/people_sidebar_1.html
>
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> Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
> INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
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