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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> Re: Re: thanks all/OCP
Hi,
I am sorry if I sounded discouraging.
That wasnt the idea.
anyway if the idea or point was missed.... I guess it is not anyway worth labouring on it :)
Best Regards
Cyril
On Wed, 28 May 2003 Joan Hsieh wrote :
>Cyril,
>
>we need some encouragements on those who has the experiences and
>also
>has ocp. As Rafig said, if I don't continue updated my ocp, I
>just know
>something I have done, limited to my experiences. With ocp, I
>know
>"WHAT", then I know "HOW"
>
>Joan
>
>M Rafiq wrote:
> >
> > Cyril,
> >
> > One positive point...
> >
> > It force you to study all upgrade material and read through
>different aspect
> > of oracle which we normally not read that thoroughly. It
>always helped me to
> > do ocp upgrade exam to read more of new features else I was
>not reading it.
> > however, it is not a replacement of my experience of 15 years
>with
> > oracle(since ver 4 DOS and ver 5(unix)
> >
> > Regards
> > Rafiq
> >
> > Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 19:16:19 -0800
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I do hope the ocp 'looks well' on ur resume!
> > and 'goes down well' with interviewers !
> >
> > I personally think OCP has lost credibility for
> > the following reasons
> >
> > a. People are known to get through using the
> > 'jack pot method' (ie close ur eyes and pray and click
>the
> > option!)
> >
> > b. People are known to sms the answers!!!
> >
> > c. Finally everyone in the industry seems to know
> > that if not the 1st attempt atleast by the 3rd attempt
> > people 'have to get through'
> >
> > Stuff like the above have made interviewers all over
> > wary of "OCP candidates" who mouth a lot of jargon
> > without the necessary experience.
> >
> > This creates a unique problem where a candidate
> > is likely to have a 'false sense of confidence'
> > just because he 'read something somewhere'
> > and this makes it difficult for the interviewer to
> > 'imagine the candidate in his team working on workarounds
>;)'
> > and difficult for the candidate to 'learn'
> >
> > So the interviewer is likely to take the 'safe option'
> > of hiring a guy who has 'genuinely worked 10%' at 10% pay
> > rather than hire a guy who has 'genuinely worked 10%'
> > done OCP (10i!hahaha) and expects to be paid 100%
> > and has airs :(
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Cyril
> >
> > PS: By the way ....Oracle claims that OCPs get paid more...
> > I have not seen such a thing...if 'someone around here'
>has
> > 'seen such a thing' well....good...:)
> >
> > IMHO OCP is one good money making idea Oracle
>Education
> > developed.......why didnt I think of it earlier :(
> >
> > On Mon, 26 May 2003 DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote :
> > >Congratulations! Well, was it as hard as you thought it was
>going
> > >to be?
> > >
> > >Dennis Williams
> > >DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> > >Lifetouch, Inc.
> > >dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> > >
> > >
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>my
> > >1ZO-031 9i
> > >dba fundamentals 1 today.
> > >Thanks for all the help and advice
> > >...............
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