RE: Database Ethics/Career Path

Actually it's an inside joke. Steve and I spend most of our day with our backs to each other. We both have to turn all the way around to talk, and that takes up too much energy, so we just send each other emails.  

--Walt

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:47 AM
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Well,  

You have to work with him. I am sure you mean that in the best way possible. Imagine too solid DBA's working together - you guys are lucky of course - assuming that you guys answer your pages (just teasing Steve) :).  

Oracle OCP DBA

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I think he talks too much.  

--Walt Weaver

   Bozeman, Montana

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Geez Steve,

Excellent response. You certainly do communicate very well in e-mail. Ever thought of writing a book?

Oracle OCP DBA

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 7:17 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

If you ever do find the perfect company don't go to work there otherwise it will no longer be perfect! :-)

As I see it, we're responsible for maintaining the database but not for data content and/or usage. To say that we're responsible for content and usage is like blaming the telephone company for transmitting foul language spoken by others.

The mere existence of personal data degrades privacy. Social Security numbers are unconstitutional so if you store them you've violated someone's rights. I'm sure that sometime in every company's history a damager has discriminated somehow whether wittingly or no. In fact, the Supreme Court has instructed employers and universities on HOW they should discriminate by law. Bolts and screws could be used in the assembly of all kinds of weapons. If your company manufactures widgets which are used by automobile manufacturers and a member of the CIA drives one of those cars then you are supporting weapons procurement however tangential. Where does it ever end??? Oh yeah, if you drive an SUV you're supporting terrorists. And of course, if you have anything to do with the media then you're supporting weapons of mass seduction. ;-)

OK, tongue in cheek rant fun over... If a company is involved in overtly illegal or blatantly immoral activity that's one thing but anything else is just daily life in the not-so-black-and-white city. Let your light glimmer and...

LET HIM WHO IS WITHOUT CORRUPT DATA CAST THE FIRST STONE! :-) Only NULL data is possibly perfect and unexecuted SQL is the MOST efficient.

Steve Orr
Not a member of the Freemen in Montana. :-)

I fell off my high horse, he ran away and I can't find him...

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Wow.

<shocked silence>

How were you able to find a job?

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Odland, Brad [ mailto:Brad.Odland_at_qtiworld.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:32 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Database Ethics/Career Path
>
> I for one
> decided a few years ago that I would NOT work on databases or
> for companies
> that degrade personal privacy, violate the constitution, discriminate
> against individuals, aid in the production of weapons or interfere the
> rights of due process. No matter how much they pay...it just
> was not worth
> it in my eyes.
>
> Something to think about...while you tune queries...
>
> Brad Odland

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