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-----Original Message-----
Sent: 23 September 2002 19:26
To: 'dgoulet_at_vicr.com'
Hi Dick,
Thanks for your reply. This is quite an agonizing situation.
This client provides a service for their main benefactor in return for
the monies it receives. However it also has other customers that it
provides
similar services to. Their main benefactor is a "Microsoft shop" and it
seems that by moving to a Microsoft based DB + Dev. environment they
hope to be able to attract future contracts from them - just by having
similar environments.
But at the same time they want their systems to be "future proof"......
Arggh!
Martin
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 23 September 2002 19:07
To: Martin Kendall; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Martin,
I'm making the assumption that your not keen on the "vendor lock-in"
idea,
which has a lot of problems attached to it. But at the same time it
appears
that your client "does not care". Pity, I've seen several companies
that died
due to being a MicroSlop only solution provider. But I digress. I will
make a
suggestion, go to www.ianywhere.com and see what Sybase has to say about
their
zero admin version. They claim to have the LOWEST total cost of
ownership of
anyone, including MicroSoft. And for a low usage site might be the
better pick.
Dick Goulet
____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "Martin Kendall" <mkendall_at_oracle-rescue.com> Date: 9/23/2002 10:33 AM
Hello all. I need to provide a one page report on why it may be
beneficial for an organisation with light usage, small DB to move
from Oracle to SQL Server. Their request is purely due to
having a recognition of their charity status by Microsoft and therefore
being able to get everything
at a much reduced price.
It is bad enough that they do not have experienced Oracle DBA's on site,
now it seems that they are attracted by the apparent ease of use /
setup/ Graphical everything.
They are even looking at adopting the same development technology as one
of their main benefactors as this may help them
win further funding from such a benefactor. I am talking .NET and VB.
I am also asked to phrase my paper from the point of "future proofing" their business technology.
I am struggling with the agnostic approach when taking into account the concept of "vendor lock-in".
It seems that cost is everything. But they will need to accept that
cost is not just what you pay
for the base product.
People, I am not really interested in a "religious war" on this - no
doubt such discussion types
have appeared on this List before. All I am asking for is pointers to
any ref. material that you may know of.
Happy days !
Martin
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
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</span>I
need to provide a one page report on why it may
be<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>beneficial</span></font></spa
n><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> for
an
organisation with light usage, small DB to
move<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>from</span></font></span><fon
t
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Oracle to
SQL Server.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Their request is
purely
due to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>having</span></font></span><f
ont
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> a
recognition of their charity status by Microsoft and therefore being
able to
get everything<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>at</span></font></span><font
size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> a much
reduced
price.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It is bad enough that they do not have experienced
Oracle
<span
class=SpellE>DBA’s</span> on site,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>now</span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> it
seems
that they are attracted by the apparent ease of use / setup/ Graphical
everything.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>They are even looking at adopting the same
development
technology
as one of their main benefactors as this may help
them<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>win</span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
further
funding from such a benefactor.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>I
am talking .NET and VB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am also asked to phrase my paper from the point of
“future
proofing” their business technology.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am struggling with the agnostic approach when
taking into
account the concept of “vendor
lock-in”.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It seems that cost is everything.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But they will need to accept that
cost
is not just what you pay<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>for</span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> the
base
product.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>People, I am not really interested in a
“religious
war”
on this – no doubt such discussion
types<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>have</span></font></span><fon
t
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
appeared on
this List before.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>All I am
asking
for is pointers to any ref. material that you may know
of.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Happy <span class=GramE>days
!</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;
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