since I tend to be the production dba and I usually know where the
bodies are buried <EG>
- dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
> Since WHEN!!???
>
> Dick Goulet
>
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> Author: Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com>
> Date: 5/29/2002 1:41 PM
>
> well application dba tunes sql as well.... and makes sure that the
> ddl
> operations the developers want don't send the production dba on a
> rampage
>
> --- Robert Eskridge <bryny_at_dfweahs.net> wrote:
> > Rachel,
> >
> > So we could distill your definitions down to:
> >
> > Production DBA: deals with real issues
> >
> > Application DBA: babysits developers
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > R> that's not a bad definition :)
> >
> > R> seriously, everyone will have their own definition, mine is:
> >
> > R> production dba -- responsible for all databases that are
> > considered
> > R> "production". this includes but is not limited to:
> >
> > R> backups
> > R> recovery testing
> > R> contingency testing
> > R> production performance tuning (should mostly be database tuning
> as
> > SQL
> > R> really should be tuned at the development stage, with
> information
> > R> passed back from the production DBA)
> > R> documentation of all procedures
> > R> space management on production systems, including capacity
> > planning and
> > R> projection of growth
> > R> change management
> > R> monitoring external data loads into production database
> > R> health checks on production database
> >
> > R> application dba -- responsible for all databases in which
> > developers
> > R> have access. responsibilities:
> >
> > R> SQL tuning (not SQL coding!)
> > R> database design, in conjunction with the developers
> > R> any and all changes to the application schema
> > R> working with the production DBA to ensure production performance
> > (see
> > R> SQL tuning!)
> > R> backups (these might be weekly offline backups, as development
> is
> > R> usually less critical but then again maybe not)
> > R> as deadlines creep closer, the "weekends off" may not be
> >
> > R> this is just the "short" list
> >
> > R> I've usually been both the production and application dba where
> > I've
> > R> worked.
> >
> >
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