Yes indeed. Have often wondered why Perl is'nt
considered cross-platform. After all, is'nt it true
to say that it probably runs on way more platforms
than Java, can be programmed either straight or OOP,
is fast and relatively easy to learn. Did I mention
it's free.
Gotta love those open source folks.
- Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
> It's been a year since I took the class, and I
> *much* prefer
> Perl. It can run circles around Java for most
> stuff.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
> Alex <axs_at_m-net.arbornet.org>
> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> 05/02/2002 08:23 AM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?
>
>
> It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously
> do not know it.
> Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love
> to know what you
> learned in that week.
>
>
> On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jared Still wrote:
>
> >
> > Hold on Lisa!
> >
> > Java is not complex. It's a very simple language
> > actually. It took me a week to learn it, though
> I'm
> > not using it now: I much prefer Perl.
> >
> > Getting a handle on all of the libraries and API's
> is
> > another story, but Java as a language is pretty
> simple.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> > On Tuesday 30 April 2002 11:14, Koivu, Lisa wrote:
> > > You have a point Chris, but pl/sql is nowhere
> near as complex as an OO
> > > language like java or C++, IMHO. I agree with
> Tom that pl/sql can be
> > > learned fairly easily in comparison to the many
> other choices out
> there.
> > > However, it takes a bit of database savvy to do
> it correctly. (Not
> much
> > > tho)
> > >
> > > I was amazed in my "database" class in college
> that the same people
> failing
> > > the simple entity-relationship modeling portion
> of the class that had
> aced
> > > the Op Systems and networking classes we took.
> I nearly failed both
> > > classes, they were so complex. I was the
> teacher's pet in the db
> class
> > > because I asked him questions that made him
> think, and he sometimes
> > > couldn't answer. (And I had to wear a skirt -
> night student, straight
> from
> > > work.)
> > >
> > > What's easy for who is dependent on the person's
> strengths.
> > >
> > > Lisa Koivu
> > > Oracle Database Monkey Mama
> > > Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
> > > 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
> > > Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Grabowy, Chris
> [SMTP:cgrabowy_at_fcg.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002
> 1:14 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: RE: pl/sql is INTERPRETED?
> > > >
> > > > IMHO, I don't believe that you can "properly"
> learn PL/SQL in a very
> > > > short period of time, or for that matter, any
> other language.
> > > >
> > > > I attended Steve Feuerstein's presentation at
> MAOP-AOTC conference,
> and
> > > > he tore into many real-life examples of
> PL/SQL. Supposedly, these
> were
> > > > written
> > > > by developers that knew what they were doing.
> > > >
> > > > Granted, if a smart developer sits down and
> reads Feuerstein's
> Learning
> > > > PL/SQL and Best Practices books, then perhaps
> they will be good. But
> who
> > > > the hell has free time? There is no free time
> on any project or
> effort
> > > > that
> > > > I know of!! I'm struggling with trying to
> improve my Oracle DBA
> skills,
> > > > plus some developers skills so I can speak
> their language when they
> blow
> > > > out
> > > > OPEN_CURSORS or something. My head is
> swimming in the stupid
> technical
> > > > alphabet soup, XML, XDK, XSQL, XSLT, XPath,
> SOAP, ASP, ADO, EJB,
> BC4J,
> > > > JDBC,
> > > > SQLJ, PSP, JVM, JSP, J2EE, EAD, RMI, CORBA,
> IIOP...and don't ask me
> what
> > > > all
> > > > those mean, because I can't keep them
> straight. But I do keep
> hearing
> > > > that
> > > > XML is going to put me out of a job, so I
> guess I should learn
> > > > that...whatever that is. Isn't XML an add-on,
> or extension, or
> something
> > > > to
> > > > DML???
> > > >
> > > > Now where the heck did I hide that bottle...
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:15 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lisa,
> > > >
> > > > You are right about the debate between PL/SQL
> & Java (or anything
> else
> > > > outside of the db).
> > > >
> > > > In my mind, the deciding factor (and something
> that is *never*
> mentioned)
> > > > is
> > > > what programming langauage the organization is
> satisfied
> with/settled
> > > > upon.
> > > >
> > > > In my little opinion, *any* programmer can
> learn PL/SQL in a very
> short
> > > > period of time. This means that development
> and maintenance costs
> are
> > > > relatively low. If an IT shop is stronger in
> Java, then they should
> > > > probably program in Java, or Cobol, or Ada, or
> whatever the flavor
> of the
> > > > decade happens to be (lets bring back APL!).
>
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