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Re: Migration from HP-UX 10.20 to HP-UX 11 and Oracle 7.3

From: Denny Koovakattu <denny_vk_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:24:28 -0500
Message-Id: <10593.114983@fatcity.com>


Hi,

  Oracle 64bit should be slightly slower than Oracle 32bit unless using any HP 64bit features. I am pasting this from the HP docs.

          32-bit application on 11.00 32-bit: parity or better 
          32-bit application on 11.00 64-bit: 1-2% slight degradation
over the same 32-bit application on the 11.00 32-bit OS 
          64-bit application on 11.00 64-bit: degradation of 8-9% over
the same 32-bit application on the 11.00 32-bit OS

The performance gain you mentioned could be due the export/import and any 64bit features used.

Regards,
Denny

dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
>
> Lisa,
>
> Regrettably I can't release any more specifics due to company "proprietary
> data" requirements, but we moved an application database from an HP9000 K570
> 4way to a L2000 2way. On the older machine it was taking 6 minutes to process a
> work order for the robotic line. We moved it to the L2000 with HP-UX 11.0 and
> Oracle 8.0.5 32 bit, result 3 minutes per work order. We then upgraded to 805
> 64 bit database (full exp/imp), result 1 minute per work order. Please note
> only the database changed. The application program remained on HP-UX 10.20 on
> the K570 and the test work order remained the same (same model number, bill of
> materials, and line configuration). Since the application has been recompiled
> on HP-UX 11 32 bit (due to 3rd party library) and it is now processing one work
> order every 30-45 seconds. This generated a problem in that the line can't
> process the work as fast as we can sequence it.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: "Koivu; Lisa" <lkoivu_at_qode.com>
> Date: 8/18/00 10:36 AM
>
> Dick, you say that 64-bit is faster than 32-bit. We recently had to
> investigate whether or not to go 64-bit (we are also HP/UX 11.0) with the
> O/S and the RDBMS. I searched the net exhaustively trying to find something
> other than 'you can have an SGA larger than 2GB' for a reason to choose
> 64bit. I read that 64-bit was only really beneficial to very large OLTP
> systems (which we aren't, really).
>
> Can you substantiate your statement below? I would be interested in any
> metrics, white papers, ANYTHING that would explain this in more detail. I
> understand the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit, I just am at a loss to
> understand what exactly this buys me.
>
> I was also wary of choosing 64-bit for the RDBMS because we are HP/UX, the
> second tier for patches, upgrades, etc. Undesirable situation to be in, to
> begin with (in my opinion). I thought if we then went 64-bit RDBMS we would
> have to wait even longer for patches and upgrades.
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
> Happy Friday everyone, I'm off to Vegas!!
> Lisa
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:17 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Rafiq,
>
> It depends on whether your going to be on HP-UX 11 32 or 64 bit. HP-UX
> 10.2
> was strictly 32 bit, but HP-UX 11 gives you a choice, somewhat dependent on
> the
> hardware. If your remaining on older HP9000 E,G,K class machines then your
> stuck with 32 bit. If your headed for the newer L & N class then you have a
> choice (BTW: take 64 bit if it's available, it is faster).
>
> Now, from an Oracle perspective, If your staying with 32 bit then the
> datafiles
> are compatible & it's just a version upgrade. If it's 64 bit, then an
> export,
> database rebuild & import will be required. BUT, since you state that your
> headed for new hardware (of whatever flavor) in the first place, this is an
> optimum time for a little house cleaning so take it. Golden opportunities
> like
> this are few & far between.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: "Mohammad Rafiq" <rafiq9857_at_hotmail.com>
> Date: 8/17/00 12:17 PM
>
> Hi Gurus
>
> I need expert guidance for our future move to HP-UX 11 from HP-UX 10.20.
>
> Existing setup:
> Platform HP
> HP-UX 10.20
> Oracle 7.3.4.5
> Oracle Financials 10.7(Char) with Oracle Manufacturing/Bill Of Materials
> Customized forms(2.3) and reports(2.5)
>
> Future Move:
> Platform HP
> New Machine
> HP-UX 11
> Oracle 8.1.6
> Oracle Financials Release 11i
> Conversion of Customized Forms & Reports to Forms/Reports 6i
>
> Please advise your experience or opinion to carry out above migration
> smoothly as Oracle Support guidance is so far contradictory.
>
> Regards
> Rafiq

-- 
Denny Koovakattu
http://www.vitalsol.com/
http://www.oneco.net/

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