Re: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft. Lauderdale, FL..

I worked as a consultant for a while where the person doing the placing tried to convince the clients that because I knew oracle, I knew every product put out under the oracle name. I had, at that time, only worked with ReportWriter 1.0 for about one month and NEVER worked with ReportWriter 2.0. During the interview, the client was not to impressed with "my" knowledge. On my resume - the one I typed out - I did not even list ReportWriter, as I considered myself a DBA, and had only looked at ReportWriter more from an evaluation standpoint than from learning/working standpoint.

After all this rambling, what I am trying to say is, it ain't just recruiters. Beware what anyone representing you says about your experience.

Terry

dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:

> Lisa,
>
> Over the past 4 years we interviewed many a person who claimed, at least on
> their resume, to be "Oracle experts". Some of it is recruiters who re-write
> resumes for potential candidates in an effort to get that finder's fee (I've had
> that happen to me from a recruiter I never contacted in the first place. He
> downloaded my resume from ORACLEDBA.NET & if you can run Oracle, you "must" be a
> SQL*Server guru as well, right??). Some of it is candidates who assume too much
> & want the job too badly, and getting an OCP certificate just because you can
> pass the tests makes it worse.
>
> Scary, you bet.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
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> Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?paquette=20stephane?= <stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com>
> Date: 8/18/00 12:55 AM
>
> We had a new developper 2 months ago, the project
> leader never does technical interview. The guy was
> talking about himself as very strong with developper
> 2000 and pl/sql. He lasts 2.5 days ...
>
> --- "Koivu, Lisa" <lkoivu_at_qode.com> a écrit : >
> > It's amazing how many people I've interviewed in the
> > last month that claim
> > 'expert' or 'advanced' skills and yet can't answer
> > the simplest questions
> > about PL/SQL. Wow. And the scary part is those
> > people could still be hired
> > as junior developers. WOW.... I could NEVER lie on
> > my resume like that and
> > oversell myself into a job. I'm not a good liar.
> > I had no idea that
> > resume fudging was so RAMPANT.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:18 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > It's funny how people can claim so many years of
> > experience that don't quite
> > add up. We have a guy here who claims to have over
> > 10 years of software
> > development experience (involving Oracle) and
> > flaunts it. He's barely past
> > 30 and graduated from college with an accounting
> > degree and worked as an
> > accountant for 6 years after that. At most he
> > probably has half that. You
> > figure it out for yourself.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Kirti
> > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:01 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > LOL...
> > In my previous job our Damagement hired a guy as my
> > boss (in later part of
> > 1995) who claimed to have had worked in UNIX and
> > Oracle environment for over
> > 22 years...
> > He was subsequently fired in Jan 1996.. I still
> > wonder why ;-)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Dailey
> > [SMTP:John.Dailey_at_concept-solutions.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:37 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: Sr. Oracle DBA Needed in Ft.
> > Lauderdale, FL..
> > >
> > > I saw an ad last year for someone looking for a
> > Peoplesoft developer with
> > > 12 years experience... Peoplesoft has only existed
> > since 1987, and only
> > > had
> > > about 20 employees or so. Were they looking for
> > one of the original 20?
> > > =) I would imagine those folks don't need to
> > look at the want ads
> > > much....
> > >
> > > John Dailey, MCSE/MCP+I
> > > Consultant
> > > Concept Solutions, LLC
> > > Phone: 703-855-8832
> > >
> > > Concept Solutions, LLC
> > > *Your Business Intelligence Partner*
> > > www.concept-solutions.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:16 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > Make it 90k GBP and it might be interesting.
> > >
> > > I would be interested in knowing who set 8 years
> > as the minimum and what
> > > relevance a BS has after [at least] 8 years
> > competency as a DBA.
> > >
> > > Phil West
> > > Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA
> > > +44 (0) 20 7623 5222 x5221
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: 16 August 2000 16:19
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > *Description:
> > > Major Ft. Lauderdale, Florida company needs an
> > Oracle DBA for their I.T.
> > > team
> > > to provide database support for Oracle systems .
> > > This is a full time staff position.
> > > Candidates local to the South Florida area are
> > strongly preferred.
> > >
> > > *Requirements:
> > >
> > > * BS in Computer Science or related degree.
> > > * 8+ yrs experience in Oracle administration. (
> > 8yrs is the minimum)
> > > * Unix experience desired.
> > > * U.S. citizenship or permanent residency.
> > >
> > > These positions offer:
> > > * Stability
> > > * The opportunity to become a key member of the
> > team.
> > > * Base Salary of up to 90K+-D.O.E.
> > >
> > > NO sub contracting positions available.
> > >
> > > Please do not send your resume if you are not in
> > the United States.
> > >
> > > For immediate consideration, please email your
> > resume as an attachment
> > > to:
> > > Bill Law,
> > > Oracle Placement Specialist
> > > OraStaff, Inc.
> > > Email: orastaff_at_mindspring.com
> > > Phone: 1-800-549-8502.
> > > Please Use Job Code: Ft Lauder/DBA/D.Grant/one
> > >
> > > Note: This is only one of the many opportunities
> > that we have available
> > > across the U.S.
> > > for candidates with Oracle skills. So if this one
> > is not a match for you,
> > > we
> > > invite you
> > > to send us your resume- as we quite possibly have
> > the opportunity that you
> > > are seeking.
> > >
> > > We pay referral fees.
> > > So please contact me if you know of anyone who
> > would be
> > > qualified/interested
> > > in the
> > > posiition described above- if it is not a match
> > for you.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bill Law
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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