Re: Complicated SQL question

stephen.howard_at_us.pwcglobal.com wrote:
> <<I 'd suggest you put away toys like Access and Excel...>>
>
> I wouldn't be so quick on that. Using Access to create queries with
> ANSI standard joins against linked Oracle tables is not a terrible way
> to _start_ to learn.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Steve

I would disagree. I think it, along with TOAD, and other such products the worst possible way to learn.

Seeing a result is not learning ... it is memorizing. It does not help the student to extend their current knowledge to meet new challenges. I'll put a classroom of students that learned their joins in SQL*Plus against a classroom of students that used Access or Excel any time, any where, and buy the beer afterword if my students lose.

BTW: How are you going to write an ISO join in a M$ product?

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