Re: tough choices

From: Larry <Larry_at_nospam.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 03:57:17 GMT
Message-ID: <xc7Cc.108024$V57.19789722@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Nope. TSM ... Yes. Tivoli Monitoring, Yes. No Tivoli Security.

Larry Edelstein

Blair Adamache wrote:

> Be that as it may, no DB2 customer I have ever worked with has used a Tivoli
> product for security. So, to say that DB2 necessitates Tivoli for security,
> as has been contended in this thread and in the past by Oracle sycophants, is
> not just a red herring - it is a scarlet herring, an ochre cod, and a rust
> kipper. Larry E has worked on Wall Street with both DB2 customers on
> mainframes, UNIX, Linux and Windows. Larry: have you ever included a Tivoli
> security package for a DB2 customer?
> 
> Daniel Morgan wrote:
> 
> 

>>Blair Adamache wrote:
>>
>>
>>>For security, 99% of DB2 customers today use services provided by the
>>>operating system (like Kerberos on Windows and RACF on zOS). I'm aware
>>>that there are Tivoli security products, but none of them are part of a
>>>typical DB2 installation.
>>
>>They do so because equivalent security is an add-on that costs more
>>money. And equating mainframe operating system level security to
>>security on Windows ... that I find hard to take in a single bite.
>>
>>To me operating system security on a server is a hole to be avoided
>>whenever possible. At least on most operating systems.
>>
>>--
>>Daniel Morgan
>>http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
>>http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
>>damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
>>(replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)

>
> Received on Tue Jun 22 2004 - 22:57:17 CDT