Ian wrote:
> Daniel Morgan wrote:
>
>> Mark Townsend wrote:
>>
>>> datab0y_at_yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For example, in the system that Daniel Morgan mentioned would cost
>>>> around $80k/ CPU with oracle. That would include
>>>> enterprise edition $40k
>>>> + partitioning $10k
>>>> + RAC $20k
>>>> + advanced security $10k
>>>> -------
>>>> $80k / CPU
>>>>
>>>> I mentioned before that DB2 workgroup server would do that job at
>>>> about $7.5k/CPU, or about 10% of the oracle cost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> A couple of things should be pointed out with this comparison
>>>
>>> 1) You are comparing IBM's workgroup server unlimited edition ( IBM
>>> DB2 WUSE, limited to 4 CPUs and 32 bits, targeted at small web
>>> serving environments) with Oracle's Enterprise Edition. A better
>>> apples-to-apples comparison would be IBM's workgroup server unlimited
>>> edition pricing, with Oracle's Standard Edition One (limited to 2
>>> CPUs) or Standard Edition (limited to 4 CPUs, inlcuding RAC support
>>> for up to 4 CPUs in a cluster).
>>>
>>> Comparative based prices are then
>>>
>>> Oracle SE1 4995 per CPU
>>> IBM DB2 WUSE 7500 per CPU
>>> Oracle SE 15000 per CPU (includes RAC)
>>>
>>> 2) IBM has no equivalent to Oracle's Partitioning or RAC option, so
>>> I'm not sure why you would even try to include them in a comparison.
>>> They also require an additional Tivoli product to provide the same
>>> capability that Advanced Security option provides.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not that dread mention of Tivoli to provide equivalent security. Every
>> time I bring that up the blue suits go into attack mode.
>
>
> > I also note
>
>> that in the comparisons not once was the DPF price or the required
>> add-on for HA included even though just one or two posts earlier
>> everyone agreed that they were essential.
>
>
> 1) DPF is not a high availability feature. DPF provides for
> scalability only. HA is a completely separate issue, and works
> with DB2 regardless of which packaging (Express, WSE or ESE).
>
>
> 2) There certainly may be some cost for the associated HA product,
> like HACMP/Sun Cluster/Veritas Cluster/MSCS/etc. I don't know
> about that pricing. But, IBM does not charge anything extra if
> you want to plug DB2 in to a cluster manager -- the tools are
> provided by IBM for free to plug DB2 into a cluster manager.
That DPF and HA are different is constained in my statement. That IBM
charges more to equate with the system requirements I described is
not a good thing or a bad thing ... it is just a fact.
--
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Received on Tue Jun 22 2004 - 20:14:15 CDT
