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Re: database market share 2003

From: Noons <wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au>
Date: 16 Jun 2004 20:06:07 -0700
Message-ID: <73e20c6c.0406161906.79127555@posting.google.com>


Serge Rielau <srielau_at_ca.eye-be-em.com> wrote in message news:<capfet$ohe$1_at_hanover.torolab.ibm.com>...
> > Other than its deranged architectrure? no.
> Thought so.

Plenty enough. Whoever designed that is clearly from one background...

> These two sentences do not conflict with each other. When an App is sold
> into a new account (one that doesn't have a natural bias due to an
> existing DBMS install - and hence skills) the app vendor has great
> influence which DBMS will be sold.

Tell me something new?

> If an App vendor competes with the DBMS vendor for the App space then
> every sold DBMS of that vendor funds teh competitive product line.

Again, something new?

> So it's in the App vendors best interest to _lead_ with another DBMS.

And by _lead_ you understand that it _only_ uses another DBMS???????

> Of course the App vendor will rather sell with any DBMS than not at all
> even if the vendor is competition.
> That's the mechanics of the market.

That is a moment of genius, Serge!

> I don't think that claim was made anywher in this thread. Certainly not
> by me.

I think it has clearly been said and implied a number of times.

> Oracle claims to have (or being in progress of) CONVERTED their
> development platform (from Sun ?) to Linux.

Like they did from VMS to Sequent Unix. And after that to Solaris.

> DB2 for LUW main development platform is AIX (it probably was CONVERTED
> from OS/2 a long time ago).
> Neither statement says anything about with OS are supported.

Exactly.

> The main development platform is the one that is first tested and hence
> usualy first certified because the developers touch it every day.

Yes.

> It is
> also the one which developers tune against by default because developers
> learn it's intricate details.

Most definitely not, if the maker wants to have any credibility when it claims portability.

> All other platforms usually end up getting either workarounds or
> additional deep integration.

That might be the case with difficult to port products like DB2. It certainly isn't the case with Oracle's RDBMS.

> It is really important to not just pick out a single buzz word, rip it
> out of context and go ballistic on a different potential meaning.

Exactly. Received on Wed Jun 16 2004 - 22:06:07 CDT

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